Another possible solution is to implement functionality similar to redirects - a user has to press a key in order to allow the MOTD window to be displayed.
That's probably the easiest solution and doesn't harm the useful plugins significantly if at all. On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Mart-Jan Reeuwijk <mreeu...@yahoo.com>wrote: > Pinnion recently added such to their plugin, after on SPUF was a thread on > how to block their adds, with nice features. Adding to the fire was that if > the player had latest version of Flash installed, the client crashed when > starting to play some Pinnion flash. > > So they added a mandatory timer, that players cannot join a team till a > timeout has occurred of 30 seconds or so. > > So now I read on this "rumor" that Valve is considering to block server > plugins to push a MOTD to a client... hmmm. > > Think a simpler solution would be to let display above the MOTD a line > along this: > > "You are viewsing the "MOTD", you can disable viewing the MOTD via > options, etc" > > Or, more eloquent: a setting per server for the client to show the MOTD or > not. So on Pinneon servers , they can be disabled, but on for example trade > servers enabled. > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Paul <ubyu....@gmail.com> > *To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list < > hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > *Sent:* Friday, 29 March 2013, 22:52 > *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Suggestion and query regarding MOTD > > If this is all true, Pinion could solve their problems by doing more with > JavaScript and possibly Flash to verify if a user is actually viewing the > ad. One great example is using JavaScript's onmousemove event. Everyone > shouldn't be restricted/punished with a rumored MOTD change just because of > Pinion's ad security being flawed (supposedly). That's not our or Valve's > problem, that's their problem and there are ways for them to fix it if > Pinion have half decent developers on their team. > > > On 29 March 2013 21:45, ics <i...@ics-base.net> wrote: > > It's another kick in the face for some if MOTD is being removed. Instead, > it should be re-invented. However about no one reads motd unless they have > to. > > Some mods need it badly, some don't. Personally i would settle for > something like L4D series have, a banner and some text about the server & > community. There was talk back then to add a button similiar like L4D2 has > to allow people directly to join to the steamcommunity that the server has > on it's configs. That never came to pass and it has been 2+ years. > > I could care less about Pinion but it seems to be the main cause for > things like this to happen. Dammit. > > -ics > > Doctor McKay kirjoitti: > > Rumor that Valve is considering removing the MOTD entirely. < > https://forums.alliedmods.**net/showthread.php?p=1922141#**post1922141<https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=1922141#post1922141> > > > > Because of this, I decided to compile a list <https://docs.google.com/** > document/d/**14GFAlNwhtuoNq4XKqSFvPuAA7iZYm**cztQiRT85FjTzU/edit?usp=** > sharing<https://docs.google.com/document/d/14GFAlNwhtuoNq4XKqSFvPuAA7iZYmcztQiRT85FjTzU/edit?usp=sharing>> > of plugins that would entirely or partially break if this change was made. > > > > Doctor McKay > http://www.doctormckay.com > mc...@doctormckay.com <mailto:mc...@doctormckay.com> > > > > On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 2:27 PM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com <mailto: > 1nsane...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Where did you hear this "rumor" from? > > > On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Paul <ubyu....@gmail.com > <mailto:ubyu....@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Disabling window.open(...)'s JavaScript function wouldn't > effect pop-up screens, however if the rumor that I've heard is > true then that would indeed be bad for such plugins, and could > see the community shrink on TF2 as a result. > > > On 29 March 2013 16:42, Mart-Jan Reeuwijk <mreeu...@yahoo.com > <mailto:mreeu...@yahoo.com>> wrote: > > > Hmm, pop-up screens for plugins like !bp and many others > are done by users, but its the server's plugin that pops > the requested webpage to the client. I'd hate to see such > go, unless some can be worked out with the steam overlay > browser, but that would cause a lot of abuse is my guess. > (servers loading up a huge site in there without the > player aware etc). > > If it would be in the form of temporary "links" (bookmark) > in the bar on top of the overlay browser, that those only > get opened when the client clicks on them, that would end > any form of abuse. > > ------------------------------** > ------------------------------**------------ > *From:* Paul <ubyu....@gmail.com > <mailto:ubyu....@gmail.com>> > *To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > <mailto:hlds@list.**valvesoftware.com<hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > >> > *Sent:* Friday, 29 March 2013, 10:15 > > *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Suggestion and query regarding MOTD > > > Hi guys, > Yes I understand what you're saying. That isn't what I > mean though. I've heard rumors (yes, on a forum, not > exactly a reliable source I know) that there are plans > in the works to make a massive change to the MOTD so > that it can't be used by server plugins mid-game, and > that it will only be usable at the beginning (when you > connect), presumably due to rare problems such as what > I mentioned occurring on certain servers. I'm guessing > the rumors aren't true, but even so I was suggesting > that it if the rumors are true that instead of doing > that you could fix the problem by disabling the > functionality of JavaScript's window.open(...), > alert(...) and confirm(...) functions. Disabling those > three functions would prevent any webpages that are > loaded in the MOTD from either making an additional > popup window, or temporarily losing mouse focus in the > game to an alert/confirm box. 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