I didn't see anything in the update content that says it is restricted to Valve servers only - did I miss something?
On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 9:50 PM, Alexander Corn <mc...@doctormckay.com> wrote: > So, how about these "better solutions" for the "nuclear option"? It's been > over a year and a half and I'm not looking forward to Valve servers sucking > away all my players tomorrow for this CS:GO operation ripoff. > > On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 5:43 AM, Doctor McKay <mc...@doctormckay.com> > wrote: > >> A member of my community received a response from Fletcher in reply to an >> email: >> >> We’re hoping the nuclear option isn’t permanent, because it isn’t ideal. >> I cannot promise anything in particular or any time frame, but I can say >> that we are looking for better solutions to this problem. We understand >> that we are basically using radiation to kill cancer. But the player >> experience was really bad and we felt it called for some immediate action. >> We hope it is not the long term solution. >> >> >> >> - Fletch >> >> >> Dr. McKay >> www.doctormckay.com >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 5:01 AM, ics <i...@ics-base.net> wrote: >> >>> They are not going to kill TF2. It still brings them money and while >>> people make contributions to workshop and new content, they can just pack >>> it in and use that in the game. People buy keys and they get money that way. >>> >>> But i don't think we get a reply, they have become too big to answer us >>> little folks. >>> >>> -ics >>> >>> Paul kirjoitti: >>> >>>> They're obviously content with the idea they wish to slowly kill Team >>>> Fortress 2, or at the very least try to. They seem to be happy to ignore >>>> our complaints as always :x. I agree that the option to make official >>>> servers not default would be somewhat the answer, but getting Valve to do >>>> that or someone at Valve to answer our concerns is probably going to be a >>>> miracle. Perhaps if we keep up with the complaints on the mailing list they >>>> will eventually respond and agree. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 26 January 2014 05:57, ics <i...@ics-base.net <mailto: >>>> i...@ics-base.net>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes lets think about the end user that has been enjoying community >>>> servers and the care we take of our players, keeping cheaters out >>>> and other troublemaking trollers and especially offering a place >>>> to play on. For over 6 years our communities have helped TF2 grow. >>>> Only after game went Free to Play, Valve added their own servers. >>>> Do you even know where the players played before that? On our >>>> community servers only. It was decided that when game goes free to >>>> play, they will add extra servers to get new players to get on and >>>> get familiar to the game. Thats what they have been doing all >>>> along and they did thought the end user. Now grip tightens for >>>> unknown reason. >>>> >>>> The existing players will keep playing on our servers but due to >>>> severe lack of new ones ever finding our servers, it will get our >>>> servers emptied. The decision that was made is absolutely horrible >>>> and one sided. Yes, it's their game and they can do whatever they >>>> want but simply forgetting every server owner contribution to this >>>> game in the past, especially the ones that have been here since >>>> TF2 release and before, it's really sad to see it was made without >>>> atleast warning us ahead of the change and telling why it has to >>>> be like this. >>>> >>>> -ics >>>> >>>> Jon Just kirjoitti: >>>> >>>> Until valve can get rid of premium servers, ad farms, and >>>> server chains that monopolize the quick play system, I think >>>> that this change should stay. I feel bad that community >>>> servers have to be punished as well, but you need to think of >>>> the average tf2 player before the server owner. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPod >>>> >>>> On Jan 25, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Supreet <coachcrock...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:coachcrock...@gmail.com> >>>> <mailto:coachcrock...@gmail.com >>>> >>>> <mailto:coachcrock...@gmail.com>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I think it is very wrong to accuse certain communities and >>>> players who may or may not be exploiting the quick play >>>> system. >>>> >>>> Saigns or NightTeam is famous because there's a >>>> considerable amount of population that loves the >>>> customized gameplay. On the other hand, Skial I believe >>>> runs the best vanilla servers along with Lotus being one >>>> of the first largest TF2 communities who is still alive. >>>> >>>> You have to be understanding and give every community >>>> member credit and a pat on the back for their hard work. >>>> If it weren't for them, a lot of the TF2 population would >>>> be undecided in terms of their server preference. >>>> >>>> The problem at hand: >>>> New players are uneducated or lazy about unchecking a box >>>> that might be irrelevant to them. >>>> >>>> We cannot do much to fix it. By bickering and repeatedly >>>> complaining, Valve will not be interested in reading our >>>> comments. Let's keep our thoughts and ideas organized in a >>>> thread and make a kind request for Valve to tweak the >>>> change they have made. >>>> >>>> Someone mentioned an excellent point here about being able >>>> to create a new quick play account to quickly regain >>>> traffic. That is correct. That is also however part of the >>>> problem. A server should be able to build a score and >>>> reputation upon how long its been up. New servers should >>>> not get the same advantage as the servers that have been >>>> up for months or years. >>>> >>>> It is not the community's fault that Valve is making this >>>> change. The problem is the fact that Valve doesn't care >>>> much or supports about user made communities. If they do >>>> not want to aid us, we will have to help ourselves. There >>>> are a lot of communities who relied on quick play and >>>> quick play ALONE to fill their servers. That whole idea is >>>> wrong and biased towards communities that work really hard >>>> to organize giveaways, contests, make their own plugins to >>>> enhance the user experience. >>>> >>>> Valve - we understand you would like to keep a controlled >>>> population of TF2 going to your vanilla no plugins, no ad >>>> mins servers. Either you should remove all non valve >>>> servers from quick play and give all server ops the fair >>>> advantage or not pool us in the same system as your >>>> official servers and get rid of them or completely remove >>>> them from quick play. >>>> >>>> The idea of Valve servers are nice, but they seem to be >>>> the culprit of all problems. >>>> >>>> I kindly request a Valve employee to please provide some >>>> feedback and let us know if you are thinking about making >>>> any changes or keeping it then way it is. >>>> >>>> If you don't plan on making any changes, then please: we >>>> kindly request you to add another check box saying >>>> "Community Servers" and keep it unchecked by default - >>>> that shall make you happy and give users some insight and >>>> choice as well. >>>> >>>> Thanks for reading. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the >>>> list archives, please visit: >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ >>>> hlds >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> archives, please visit: >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> archives, please visit: >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >
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