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On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek <
proph...@sticed.org> wrote:

> I joined this conversation by giving you a hint that people have already
> figured stuff out, and I'm going to leave it at that, while noting that you
> seem to refuse to join the irc to actively help or simply to just get more
> detailed information. So idk what you're doing here, which in turn amuses
> me.
> And I'm sure you've heard of PropHunt TNG before.
>
> On 11.09.2014 01:00, Ross Bemrose wrote:
>
>> I'm going to note that I have no idea who you are, and thus have no
>> recollection of ever dealing with you before.
>>
>> Which amuses me to an extent since you have prophunt in your email
>> address.
>>
>> On 9/10/2014 6:52 PM, Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek wrote:
>>
>>> It's Powerlord, so that has always proven to be difficult. You haven't
>>> done anything wrong weasel.
>>>
>>> On 11.09.2014 00:49, Weasels Lair wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nope no offense.  Just trying (and failing) to introduce some humor.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Ross Bemrose <rbemr...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  I'm sorry that me responding to a direct question offended you.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/10/2014 6:39 PM, Weasels Lair wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  At the risk of being sarcastic here ... "cool story bro."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Ross Bemrose <rbemr...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   I was literally supposed to be leaving work when this happened and
>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> just now arrived home from work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/10/2014 5:48 PM, Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Powerlord, you could stop wasting your time and actually join the
>>>>>>> sm irc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> where stuff has been figured out already.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10.09.2014 23:42, Ross Bemrose wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Although I said it's not a MM:S issue on Linux, looking at the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> backtrace
>>>>>>>>> I'm getting, it probably actually is... since the fault seems to
>>>>>>>>> be in
>>>>>>>>> ProcessVDF and sourcemod.vdf is the only VDF file I have.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 5:38 PM, epi <ow...@tf.heybey.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    Yeah, looks like it's a metamod issue. Removed all references to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  sourcemod in the metamod configuration, and the server still
>>>>>>>>>> segfaults.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/10/2014 5:35 PM, epi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   I haven't tested with just metamod, only with both metamod and
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> sourcemod. Will try with just metamod to see what happens.
>>>>>>>>>>> Guessing
>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>> what I'm seeing on the lists, looking like the same issue on both
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   platforms.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   On 9/10/2014 5:31 PM, Lambda wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   Looks like the issue is with Metamod, atleast on Windows
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2014-09-10 23:30 GMT+02:00 epi <ow...@tf.heybey.org>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>    My server running on CentOS 6 segfaults before the map is
>>>>>>>>>>>> loaded
>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  sourcemod is loaded after this update. It also complains about
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> finding libcurl. This message disappeared after installing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   libcurl.i686,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> but the server still segfaults.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  On 9/10/2014 5:09 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> update
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> below. The new version number is 2395700.
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Eric
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Added taunts to the items that can be uploaded to the Steam
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Workshop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Added new "Taunt" and "Halloween" tags to the Steam Workshop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          - Previous entries marked with the "Halloween 2013"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tag
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   automatically be updated to use the new tag in the coming
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> days
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   - Added tournament medals for the ETF2L and RETF2 EE22
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Client/server performance improvements
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Improved client memory usage by updating weapons to only be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loaded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> demand
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Improved edict usage on servers to help eliminate "out of
>>>>>>>>>>>> edicts"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   errors during round restarts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   - Fixed a server crash caused by using the "map" command in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   console
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> while the server is running
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Fixed a client crash when switching between windowed-mode and
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   fullscreen for Mac OS X and Linux clients
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   - Re-enabled HTML MOTD support for Mac OS X and Linux clients
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Extended the server's "status" command to display edict
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   player/bot counts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           - status output also includes basic class stats...not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fully
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   implemented yet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   - Fixed custom content not being shown while watching .dem
>>>>>>>>>>>>> files
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   were recorded on servers running with sv_pure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   - Fixed a teleporter exploit that involved players killing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> teammates
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   via
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> telefrag by switching to Spectator
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Fixed bad LODs for The Angel of Death coat for the Medic
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Fixed push triggers applying push values twice when lag
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compensation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   is being done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   - Fixed a Hammer crash related to changing entity types for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   existing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> entity
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Fixed Strange flamethrowers not getting kill credit for
>>>>>>>>>>>> deflected
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   projectiles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   - Fixed mini-crit and taunt-invite icons being orphaned in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> world
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Fixed the Festive Force-a-Nature using the wrong taunt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> animation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Fixed the difficulty value not displaying correctly in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mann
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Machine scoreboard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   - Fixed Mann vs. Machine bots floating in the air when they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> die
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> explosion
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Fixed the Pyro's clap sounds clipping the voice lines during
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Party
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trick taunt
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Fixed the Short Circuit creating its firing effects when being
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   deployed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Fixed Mini-Sentry collision hull being scaled smaller than it
>>>>>>>>>>>> should be
>>>>>>>>>>>> - The Frying Pan can now accept Kills While Explosive Jumping
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> strange
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  parts
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   - Updated the equip_region for the Mining Light and Lord
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cockswain's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Novelty Mutton Chops and Pipe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   - Updated the materials for the Apparition's Aspect and made
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   paintable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Updated the Eternaween vote so it cannot be initiated by
>>>>>>>>>>>> clients
>>>>>>>>>>>> without using the Eternaween
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   - Updated the localization files
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Updated pl_cactuscanyon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          - Completed permanent removal of previous stage 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> map
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          - Removed the rollback hill in stage 2, and adjusted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neighboring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   u-turn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           - Adjusted the right-hand spawn exit for Blu in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stage 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          - Reworked Sniper window above underpass in stage 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          - Adjusted spawn times in stage 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          - Added flatcars to the train in stage 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          - Blu side path from cart spawn to underpass is now a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop-down
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stage 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>          - Widened a doorway along the cart-path in stage 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Updated rd_asteroid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          - Removed spawn advantage for attackers that die in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enemy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   base
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>          - Moved health and ammo above the front door stairs
>>>>>>>>>>>> further
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  the base
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           - Increased bot count. Summed total health and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> points in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> each
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   section remains the same.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           - Power core pickups now give health and ammo to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collector
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          - Removed small health kit above cave exit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          - Added medium ammo kit in the caves near the medium
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> health
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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