Yes, of course, I’m happy to run that show.

I’m not really sure if this requires more than just a couple of slides, just to 
launch the discussion and gather opinion, but I will work on it, and of course, 
happy to heard what others believe I should include.

Regards,
Jordi
 

-----Mensaje original-----
De: homenet <homenet-boun...@ietf.org> en nombre de "STARK, BARBARA H" 
<bs7...@att.com>
Responder a: <bs7...@att.com>
Fecha: martes, 24 de octubre de 2017, 17:33
Para: "jordi.pa...@consulintel.es" <jordi.pa...@consulintel.es>
CC: HOMENET <homenet@ietf.org>
Asunto: Re: [homenet] support for HNCP in IPv6 CE routers

    As chair...
    I think it would be useful for homenet to discuss how to propagate its 
protocols into general purpose home network routers (that people may use at the 
edge or interior) and also what may or may not be good to include in 
requirements specifically targeting routers at the customer's edge (CE). 
    
    Jordi: if you would like to bravely volunteer to help guide this discussion 
by being the person at the presenter microphone, that would be great. We could 
base discussion on the 7084-bis draft so you don't need to have another draft; 
but maybe some slides focused on the specific homenet questions. 
    
    If others in homenet think having this discussion is a bad idea please let 
me/us know. 
    Barbara
    
    > On Oct 24, 2017, at 1:07 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ 
<jordi.pa...@consulintel.es> wrote:
    > 
    > Hi James,
    > 
    > I included HNCP in RFC7084-bis following your request :-(
    > 
    > So even if I’d only a couple of answers, I think it we are on the right 
track …
    > 
    > So, concentrating in homenet.
    > 
    > Do, repeating my 2nd questions, do we believe we need a specific document 
HOMENET document to suggest to include in CE, or to say how to do it, or 
whatever?
    > 
    > Maybe it is interesting, if the chairs agree, to include this question in 
the WG agenda for the next meeting?
    > 
    > Regards,
    > Jordi
    > 
    > 
    > -----Mensaje original-----
    > De: homenet <homenet-boun...@ietf.org> en nombre de james woodyatt 
<j...@google.com>
    > Responder a: <j...@google.com>
    > Fecha: lunes, 23 de octubre de 2017, 22:12
    > Para: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.pa...@consulintel.es>, HOMENET 
<homenet@ietf.org>
    > Asunto: Re: [homenet] support for HNCP in IPv6 CE routers
    > 
    >    On Oct 23, 2017, at 00:48, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ 
<jordi.pa...@consulintel.es> wrote:
    > 
    > 
    >    Now, in this version I’ve NOT included the HNCP support as a 
requirement, however I still mention it as:
    > 
    >    The end-user network is a stub network, in the sense that is not
    >       providing transit to other external networks.  However, HNCP
    >       ([RFC7788]) allows support for automatic provisioning of downstream
    >       routers.  Figure 1 illustrates the model topology for the end-user
    >       network.
    > 
    >    Now, the questions I’ve for this WG is:
    > 
    >    1) Do you think I should mention other homenet documents ?
    >    2) Do you think we should have a specific homenet document requiring 
the support of homenet for IPv6 CE routers, so for example this becomes an 
integral part of testing by ISPs, IPv6 Ready Logo, or even RFQs, etc.?
    > 
    >    I will be happy to work in a homenet document if we believe that 2 
above is needed. Anyone else interested?
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    >    I think it would be better if you leave aside all mention of HOMENET 
protocols from the RFC 7084-bis draft. That document is mainly intended for 
first-mile internet service providers, and I think the less the have to say 
about how residential networks operate behind the demarcation point at the edge 
of their networks, the better for everyone. This would give HOMENET optimal 
freedom to write standards for interoperability of devices intended for home 
networks without having to get mired in the tar pit of dealing with first-mile 
internet service provider stuff.
    > 
    > 
    >    --james woodyatt <j...@google.com>
    > 
    > 
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