Boy, I hate to jump into this thread, but I cannot help myself.
Everyone so far has included a large helping of the facts in their
posts, as well as some side order of opinions. The situation is
complicated, and one cannot paint everyone with the same broad brush.
I want to point out one fact, though. As far as importing goods, US
Customs puts ALL the responsibility for the goods on the importer, not
the exporter. Sure, the makers are complicit, but the importer of such
goods bears all the responsibility from a legal standpoint.
Dave Weiner
Brass Arts Unlimited
-----Original Message-----
From: John Baumgart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'The Horn List' <horn@music.memphis.edu>
Sent: Sat, 3 May 2008 11:56 am
Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Chinese instruments
No kidding. Also, I fail to see how facts can be bigoted. There is a
difference between inexpensive stencil products and counterfeit
products.
Had you read my post, you'd realize my concern is with respect to
counterfeits, not inexpensively outsourced manufactured goods. The
fact is
that regardless of where the demand lies for counterfeit goods, whether
they
electronics, instruments, clothes, movies, collectibles, Tiffany
jewelry, or
whatever else you can think of, nearly all of them come from China, not
India, not Russia, not Mexico. While it is illegal to import and sell
counterfeit goods in the US and most Western countries, there is no
disincentive in China to making and exporting them, and Western
trademark
holders can expect no cooperation from Chinese law enforcement in
preventing
it. Ebay alone spends over $10 million per year trying to keep
counterfeit
items out of their auctions. Buyers who are specialists in what they
are
buying can usually tell bad from good, and often by the seller's
location,
but others are taken by fakes daily.
John Baumgart
-----Original Message-----
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Behalf
Of William Gross
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 8:48 PM
To: The Horn List
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Chinese instruments
What a hoot! "No offense intended" then the comment about such a
viiew being bigotted.
On 5/2/08, Jeremy Cucco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
John-
No offense intended, but that is a rather myopic view on the subject
and
quite biggoted against the Chinese to boot.
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