> -----Original Message----- > From: John Baumgart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 6:42 PM > To: 'The Horn List' > Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Chinese instruments > > For the record, I'm not optimistic about this situation. > That was someone else. Yes, Chinese manufacturers may soon > turn out acceptable school horns, but some will also turn out > counterfeit name-brand horns, much as they do with other > items. A seller on eBay will list what looks like an older > 8D, complete with a legitimate serial number and Conn > engravings, as well as some simulated wear. A > well-intentioned buyer knowing not to buy a "Selman" > or other well-known crap horn will buy this thinking it's an > Elkhart 8D. > Heck, even the forged serial number checks out. The buyer > gets the horn and it plays sort of OK, and many will be none > the wiser until it's time to get a repair done and it's > nothing more than a high end Selman, Schmort, Corn, > Alexnerdan, Yummyhan or what have you. Chinese > counterfeiters know no bounds when it comes to screwing people.
All counterfeiters know no bounds when it comes to screwing people. -S- > John Baumgart > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] du] On Behalf Of Tom Warner > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 3:40 AM > To: The Horn List > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Chinese instruments > > > On 1 May 2008, at 11:20 pm, John Baumgart wrote: > > > Speaking of Chinese made horns, Kit wrote: "A couple of > years in the > > future when the manufacturers learn what they're doing, these > > instruments may start to become quite acceptable." > > > > I agree. I'm one who's actually optimistic about the future > of Chinese > > instruments. > > It's already happening with other brass instruments. > > Importers are demanding a high level of quality and > instruments based on proven designs. One brand is advertising > that they've had their lead pipes designed by a well known > and respected custom instrument maker. > > The prices are rising with the quality but I've been told > that it's still possible to get, for example, a trumpet > that's _very_ similar to a Yamaha Xeno for approximately half > the price. > > In the Brass Band world, Virtuosi in England are selling what > to all intents and purposes are professional quality > instruments at student prices. > > It's a growing area and there's no reason it can't happen with horns. > > I'd almost be willing to bet that right now, somewhere out > there there is a very well built and good playing Han 8D or 103. > > All the best, > Tom > _______________________________________________ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/john.baumgart%4 0comcast.net > > _______________________________________________ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steve%40fridays computer.com > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.7/1411 - Release > Date: 5/2/2008 8:02 AM > _______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org