As for the lack of comms from Adobe, again I don’t deny that, but I would add that they are VERY careful about sending out email. And that means that even the CF team can have a hard time getting email out. Another challenge is for Adobe to distinguish who really is an active user vs who just made the purchase. The latter tend to not care to hear much. The former may just not be known by Adobe. (I realize that’s just one example, and not Aaron’s aforementioned situation.) Of course, I have experienced such poor email comms from other companies whose products I own, so this doesn’t surprise or bother me quite as much as I know it does some.
And as for Billy’s experience at the conference where Adobe folks seemed not to know about CF, well, that doesn’t surprise me either. I always point out that Adobe is huge, and the CF team is tiny. Probably 99% of Adobe folks can’t even spell ColdFusion, because it never even crosses their radar screen (since it’s not in the Creative Cloud wheelhouse). And any top-level folks there do likely only care about it to the degree that it contributes to the bottom line, and without other detriment. But to be clear, the CF team IS very much devoted to CF, again more than I think most give them credit, since most folks rarely see or hear from them (see the first point above), and I’ve tried to get them on the CFMeetup but it’s been hard. At least they have been speaking this week on the Adobe Devweek, and nearly all of them come to and/or speak at the Summit in Nov. There are plenty of aspects of these situations which are sad, sure. I’ve personally just learned over the years to accept them as, it is what it is. You can’t push a rope, and again Adobe is a big ship. We can only do what we can. /charlie From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Billy Cravens Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 12:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question I remember a few years ago at the Internet Retailers Conference (mostly e-commerce focused, generally CIO level) I walked over to the giant Adobe booth (they were pitching their all-in-solution or whatever it was), mentioning I was a Adobe ColdFusion UGM, and the sales rep there looked at like if I had said I was the UGM for Adobe Zanzabar it would have made as much sense. Billy Cravens On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Gary McNeel <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: This is great information. I am going to continue to mockup and launch the site using CF for now. I have it all running and the hosting company supports it (up to 11 I think). For me it is quick and easy compared to what we do in .NET. I will, however, be asking you guys some questions that will seem easy to you and appreciate any help. As I said earlier, I am not a hardcore developer and am more focused on creating a good starting point that I hope will get traction and then hire in the real developers, perhaps converting it to something different if it makes sense. So expect to see a little more activity from the group for a bit. Thanks for all the feedback. Adobe has not been good about letting me know about anything - ever. That includes all the CC stuff. I do have to admit it is getting better. I have gotten a few emails, but they are not related to Coldfusion. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "Houston ColdFusion Users' Group" discussion list. To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit http://groups.google.com/group/houcfug?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Houston ColdFusion Users' Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
