I don’t know if you’re saying that in jest, Aaron, but I would have been that “certain Charlie”. :-)
Yep, I worked for New Atlanta from 2003-2006 (hard to believe it’s been over 10 years since I left). And yep, as we were needing to persuade people about the value it brought (especially for .NET deployment of CFML, when that was—and still is—compelling to some transitioning to ASP.NET), we did have me traveling around to user groups and key clients/prospects, and I do believe I spoke at the houcfug. :-) But back to the “don’t see Adobe coming around”, that is another one where I would say I rarely have seen most companies really selling their product to the average customer, or if they do it’s generally at a level where many of us “regular folks” wouldn’t be involved. :-) I’m picturing golf outings, executive lunches, stuff like that, which is what I suspect happens with most enterprise products. The number of such big CF deals in any given city may be very low, so I just don’t expect most CFers would ever see an Adobe person. This is similar to how especially international folks often complain they never see Adobe (in person, at events, or in their media), and I would often say in effect, “hey, trust me. The average American doesn’t, either. It’s really not somehow very different here, and it’s definitely not about Adobe disrespecting you and your country’s folks”. :-) /charlie From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Aaron Rouse Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 06:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question Three sides to everything and usually some mesh of all three is the real story. That is a very surprising number, 8000, but probably surprising to me because in my circle of contacts in the CF world everyone I know is purchasing licenses through through company that is then used for different clients. One particular contact up in NJ I would imagine has purchased upwards of a dozen licenses in the past 12 months, I know at least half would be for new clients of his. I think the lack of communication or poor communication methods is a real thorn in the language side for established customers. I can't even remember the last time we had someone come out to us "selling" ColdFusion to us, been years, maybe even dates back to when Forta was the mouth piece. Of course that all is back when other companies such as New Atlanta also sent out people, I recall meeting a certain Charlie one time and pretty certain my previous manager met that guy too for a different set of CF servers. Now I need to go read up on the latest version of Zanzabar now that it is open source and out of Adobe's reach. -- Admiral Aaron Rouse -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "Houston ColdFusion Users' Group" discussion list. To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit http://groups.google.com/group/houcfug?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Houston ColdFusion Users' Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
