“The very leaders” of CF user groups (all of them, as you seem to imply) have not “moved away”, Aaron. You have cited one, and I’m sure you could name more. Individuals can of course go where they will, and user group leaders especially may be more inclined than most to move on because they enjoy leading folks into new and exciting areas.
As one of those “very CF user group leaders” who has not left, I think I’ve done enough (both in this thread and otherwise) to convey why I think folks should have more confidence than they hear from most corners. But so be it. You can “lead a horse to water”, but you “can’t push a rope”. /charlie PS Maybe my mistaken “Adam” was a Freudian slip, which some may well recognize. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Aaron Rouse Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 12:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [houcfug] Coldfusion DEAD Question You really are missing the point here. They used to come out and basically "sell" a product and upcoming new versions of it. They stopped doing that for whatever reasons they had. They stopped doing that around the same time a lot more people outside the coding side of the product started getting wind of this now 10+ year old rumor the product is dead. The "non average" folks who make decisions as to what products will and will not be used start to feel this is an abandoned technology and just being milked for money until finally dies. Those folks make the decision to move to technologies that they do not hear are dead and do not feel the parent companies have abandoned. Then fast forward to present day and the communication on the product to existing customers is basically non-existent, especially if you do not read some CF blog mentioned in prior emails on this thread. The only two companies I can compare to would be Oracle and Microsoft. They do come out, feel the need for showing their faces and trying to make people aware of their products and upcoming features/changes. Sure those are much bigger companies, but they are doing basically just what Adobe used to do with us. Physically seeing someone makes a much more lasting impression. I am glad CF got their 8000 new clients or whatever that number was, but they really are doing a bad job of making long term clients feel like they should stick with the product. A great example is in this very email thread where the leader of this CF user group stated they moved their company from CF to Ruby and stated some reasons. To me that is not an overly good sign of a product being all that great when the very leaders of user groups for the product have moved away from it and make statements which seem to show them disliking Adobe. -- Admiral Aaron Rouse .... or Adam if you want -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "Houston ColdFusion Users' Group" discussion list. To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit http://groups.google.com/group/houcfug?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Houston ColdFusion Users' Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
