Ahhh yes, Lets treat z/OS like windows, then when you get the "blue screen" of death I will just tell management to re-ipl and hope it works correctly this time, and the error messages are really descriptive on other platforms. But hey this logic works for them. What your discussing is philosophy, knowing how a system works and is put together and the pieces that make the os work from nip until the first online system comes up is what makes a good system programmer, but then in some people eyes they don't want to know as long as it ipl's, not all that great for when things don't go perfect. Gooey and clicky applications have their place, but sorry I want total flexibility to place datasets where I want and call them fred if I desire. And then maybe catalog some in the mastercatalog and others in the usercatalog's on different volumes even. How many times have we heard, IBM cannot design for every application and environment. So at best they give guidelines and basic rule! s of thumbs. Your mileage may vary depending on MANY things, so if you took defaults w/o understanding shame on you. If someone doesn't understand all the pieces, stay out of the kitchen or ask and learn. Also understand every install doesn't work in every company... in my 25yrs and 7 different companies Ive worked at, small to very large, you have to have that flexibility and having 150K mips and 110 lpars with a plethora of applications running the world doesn't always turn correctly.
Thanks Ms. Terri E. Shaffer terri.e.shaf...@jpmchase.com Engineer J.P.Morgan Chase & Co. GTI DCT ECS Core Services zSoftware Group / Emerging Technologies Office: # 614-213-3467 Cell: # 412-519-2592 -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:04:44 -0800, Guy Gardoit wrote: >What?!? Not sure how'd you define "decent" but I don't see the point of >this statement at all. ServerPac and SMP/E (not to mention HCD) are >excellent products. If you're trying to compare installing and maintaining >IBM mainframe software to say, Windows, please don't make me laugh - wait >until Friday to make nonsense statements like this. > Hardly nonsense. On Win or Mac, when Firefox tells me it needs an update, I click on "Update". A few minutes later, it tells me to restart Firefox to activate the update. I click "Restart Firefox" to warmstart. Two clicks and its done. With ServerPac and SMP/E ... ? >On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Roy Hewitt wrote: > >...snip >IBM come up with a decent design on how to install and maintain z/OS >...snip -- gil ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This communication is for informational purposes only. It is not intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. All market prices, data and other information are not warranted as to completeness or accuracy and are subject to change without notice. Any comments or statements made herein do not necessarily reflect those of JPMorgan Chase & Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential, legally privileged, and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Although this transmission and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by JPMorgan Chase & Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates, as applicable, for any loss or damage arising in any way from its use. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. Please refer to http://www.jpmorgan.com/pages/disclosures for disclosures relating to European legal entities. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
