"stay out of the kitchen" - very well put. Any moron can load Windows, or update "Firefox" so let's try to make z/OS that way. Ridiculous and irrelevant comparison.
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:51 AM, Terri E Shaffer < terri.e.shaf...@jpmchase.com> wrote: > Ahhh yes, Lets treat z/OS like windows, then when you get the "blue > screen" of death I will just tell management to re-ipl and hope it works > correctly this time, and the error messages are really descriptive on other > platforms. But hey this logic works for them. What your discussing is > philosophy, knowing how a system works and is put together and the pieces > that make the os work from nip until the first online system comes up is > what makes a good system programmer, but then in some people eyes they don't > want to know as long as it ipl's, not all that great for when things don't > go perfect. Gooey and clicky applications have their place, but sorry I > want total flexibility to place datasets where I want and call them fred if > I desire. And then maybe catalog some in the mastercatalog and others in > the usercatalog's on different volumes even. How many times have we heard, > IBM cannot design for every application and environment. So at best they > give guidelines and basic rule! > s of thumbs. Your mileage may vary depending on MANY things, so if you > took defaults w/o understanding shame on you. If someone doesn't understand > all the pieces, stay out of the kitchen or ask and learn. Also understand > every install doesn't work in every company... in my 25yrs and 7 different > companies Ive worked at, small to very large, you have to have that > flexibility and having 150K mips and 110 lpars with a plethora of > applications running the world doesn't always turn correctly. > > Thanks > > Ms. Terri E. Shaffer > terri.e.shaf...@jpmchase.com > Engineer > J.P.Morgan Chase & Co. > GTI DCT ECS Core Services zSoftware Group / Emerging Technologies > Office: # 614-213-3467 > Cell: # 412-519-2592 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On > Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:04 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to > Accenture > > On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:04:44 -0800, Guy Gardoit wrote: > > >What?!? Not sure how'd you define "decent" but I don't see the point of > >this statement at all. ServerPac and SMP/E (not to mention HCD) are > >excellent products. If you're trying to compare installing and > maintaining > >IBM mainframe software to say, Windows, please don't make me laugh - wait > >until Friday to make nonsense statements like this. > > > Hardly nonsense. On Win or Mac, when Firefox tells me it > needs an update, I click on "Update". 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