"Barbara Nitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Hi Tom,
> 
> thanks for your explanation. That was basically what I already knew
and what WLM development told me in 5000 words or more.
> 
> That product not only sets several timers per address space, they also
pop all at the same time. (I looked at a system trace table of 1.5s
length, and for this product there were about 450 timer pops in 0.010s,
as indicated be the timer SRBs that got scheduled. There were also way
too many EXT/CLKC interrupts in MVS storage management indicating that
the default LE options the product comes with are a long way away from
ideal. The list goes on.
> 
> Fact is that I am stuck with a very bad PI (and I cannot really do
anything about it in WLM), and when the fines are due to be paid
(because we didn't deliver on time) or the customer complaints come in,
it's my head that will roll (because I am responsible for the wlm
policy).
> 
> So there are definitely tasks that don't play by WLMs rules.....
> 

I see the problem and the consequences, but I think your conclusion and
originally already the title are not and cannot be correct: it shouldn't
matter to WLM whether tasks want to play by WLM's rules or not. WLM
should manage the tasks, whether they want to play along or not. Where
is the rule that I should not issue more van x timer pops in 10 msecs? 

The problem here is, that WLM is not capable of managing its children
when they are a little more exotic than the usual kids in class. or at
least, it is not capable of reporting meaningfully about them. E.g. if I
organize 100 TSO users to repeatedly enter a transaction at the same
time, I bet WLM will fully panic and report PI's in the 100's, although
performance might be good.

Kees.
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