I think I've mentioned this here before, but I used to work at P&H Mining Equipment in Milwaukee. They had a mainframe running SAP/R2, and several other applications. It was an MP3000-H50. In the mid 90's, they bought Joy Mining in Pennsylvania. Joy converted their old 3081 to an Lpar on our machine in Milwaukee back in 1996. A few years later, Joy decided they didn't want to go through a Y2K conversion, and still have all old software. They converted everything to SAP/R3, and got off our mainframe in early 1999.
When SAP said that if we ran P&H on the same equipment that Joy was using, they would not charge us for new SAP licenses. This eliminated a huge cost, and P&H decided to convert to SAP/R3 and run it in Pennsylvania. The project took just under 2 years when it finally got started till they turned the mainframe off. There was some pain at first, but the conversion as a whole went very well. According to management, they saved a bundle of money not having to pay for 2 datacenters, no z/OS software and hardware, etc. Eleven people, including myself and my boss were eliminated, although one retired, and a couple found jobs within the company. One of those people got a job at higher pay as a forklift operator! You can get off the mainframe and save money! Having a company with a datacenter already set up and running was a big help though. I'm sure that had that not been the case, it would have taken at least a year or so more time to convert. Eric ---- Michael Saraco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In the end I have never heard of any shop getting off of the mainframe and > saving money. I don't know maybe there is savings after one or two hundred > years. > -- Eric Bielefeld Systems Programmer Aviva USA Des Moines, Iowa 515-645-5153 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html