JOL is still available and up to date. On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 6:44 AM Jay Maynard <jaymayn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > "The mainframe needs to keep pace with the industry." > > I certainly hope that whatever the industry is doing that gets adapted to > the mainframe does so much more cleanly than, say, Python... The absolute > abortion that is Python's idea of replacing JCL makes COBOL look like APL. > > On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 6:37 AM David Crayford <dcrayf...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 2/3/23 19:48, René Jansen wrote: > > >> I think 99% of the folks on this forum want a language that can run in > > a TSO/ISPF environment hosted in PDS data sets. Lua can do that and it's > > orders of magnitudes faster then REXX with the advantage of package > > management. The next gen guys don't use TSO/ISPF and they're going to use > > Python and couldn't give a hoot about NetRexx. > > > NetRexx can and does, using the IBM jzos classes, which are delivered > > with its JVM’s. > > > > Hmm, I don't think so. NetRexx programs can not reside in PDS data sets. > > I don't get the point of NetRexx. > > > > > > > They can do a lot more with conventional MVS than LUA, I am sure. > > > > Don't agree. Lua4z has a heap of integrations including TSO/ISPF without > > VDEFINE. And you can write packages and applications using PDS data > > sets. REXX is impoverished in this respect and you can't share state or > > data structures between modules. > > > > /https://lua4z.github.io/Lua4z//// > > > > > Not that anyone would do that, of course, being so much easier with ISPF > > and Rexx and their shared variable pool. I have built dialogs in COBOL and > > PL/1 but nothing beats Rexx for that, having not to VDEFINE everything > > first. > > > > That's subjective. I find it much easier to write code in Lua. A > > programming language that supports OO, meta-programming, functional > > programming and co-routines with just 20 reserved words is a thing of > > absolute beauty and a testament to the designers. REXX is a niche > > language that's only used to any great extend on mainframes and it's > > popularity is constantly eroding. The mainframe needs to keep pace with > > the industry. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > -- > Jay Maynard > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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