It sounds like this may come under the heading of "beating a dead horse", but that has never stopped VM Sysprogs before, so.... I've used the Quick Guides for 5 or 6 zVM installs so far and I don't think I've ever used an IBM printed hard copy of them yet. I've always printed a copy from the .PDF files. It would be fine with me if IBM did not even supply a hard copy version. That takes care of any expense issue with non-standard sized paper. (I frequently print other materials on "legal" sized paper and have no problem with doing so. I suspect other users feel the same way.) Of course, the paper and font size issues could be eliminated by breaking the DVD guide into two versions: 1st level DVD and 2nd level DVD. (The tape install is already in a separate quick guide). Each of these could easily fit on a standard sheet using a larger font. Yes, this would create another, new, document and it could be argued that this would increase the cost... but.... As mentioned before, don't print any of them. Make them available electronically (only). That also makes it possible to update them much easier if the need arises. If you want to make sure that users are aware of the Quick Guides, put a one-sheet notice in with the other shipped materials providing the URLs for the downloadable guides. Mike
C. M. (Mike) Hammock Sr. Technical Advisor IBM System Z Solutions Mainline Information Systems (404) 643-3258 mike.hamm...@mainline.com Alan Altmark <alan_altm...@us. ibm.com> To Sent by: The IBM IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU z/VM Operating cc System <ib...@listserv.u Subject ARK.EDU> Re: Please tell me I did something stupid 03/18/2009 01:37 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System <ib...@listserv.u ARK.EDU> On Tuesday, 03/17/2009 at 09:45 EDT, Mike Hammock <mike.hamm...@mainline.com> wrote: > I also vote for keeping the Quick Guides... I think they are the best > thing since sliced bread! > The only suggestion I would make would be to 'simplify'; them by completely > separating the 1st level and 2nd level install instructions,. > I find that "skipping around" the "other" parts causes more problems than > anything else. I appreciate the sentiments. We are not particularly happy about getting rid of them, but their time had come. In order to keep it to "one page", the page was going to have to grow to a non-standard piece of paper because the font was too small, both from an IBM printing standards perspective and based on complaints from sysprogs. Non-standard = more costly to produce. We will instead supply some sort of abbreviated installation/service procedure as part of the book. It won't skip steps, but neither will it have the voluminous explanations of the primary text. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott This e-mail and files transmitted with it are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you are not one of the named recipient(s) or otherwise have reason to believe that you received this message in error, please immediately notify sender by e-mail, and destroy the original message. Thank You.