Why is there a Clear_Tdisk option? Because not clearing T-disk poses a security 
problem. There is no such problem with V-disk.

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Gentry, Stephen
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 11:29 AM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: TDISK and SYSTEM CONFIG question.
> 
> I guess I should have read Richard's response closer.  So, 
> I'll echo Dennis's question as well.
> What security problem?
> We do not have CLEAR_TDisk enabled.  Every time we define a 
> t-disk, it HAS to be formatted, no exceptions.
> Steve
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 2:15 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: TDISK and SYSTEM CONFIG question.
> 
> What "security problems" in T-Disk?  If you enable 
> Clear_TDisk, there's no security problem.  Even if the system 
> crashes while confidential data is on a T-disk, it's cleared 
> at IPL time before the T-disk space is eligible to be given to users.
> 
>                                                  Dennis O'Brien
> 
> My computer beat me at chess, but it was no match for me in 
> kickboxing.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 08:22
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: [IBMVM] TDISK and SYSTEM CONFIG question.
> 
> If you have the page space to support it, you can get by 
> without TDSK space by using V-disk. It is always cleared very 
> quickly, by CP, before it is used and does not pose the 
> security problems that you find in T-disk. A large V-disk is 
> also faster to format than is a T-disk of equal capacity.
> 
> Regards,
> Richard Schuh 
> 
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
> > [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:51 PM
> > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > Subject: Re: TDISK and SYSTEM CONFIG question.
> > 
> > On Wednesday, 09/16/2009 at 07:14 EDT, "Gentry, Stephen" 
> > <stephen.gen...@lafayettelife.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Further, and in the same manual,  it states that you can 
> clear each
> > T-DISK
> > > before it is reassigned.  It depends on your point of 
> view but this
> > seems
> > > contradictory. Clear, in my opinion, means the T-DISK
> > created with the
> > DEFINE
> > > command is completely cleared. Of course clearing cylinder 0, in 
> > > effect,
> > makes
> > > the area unreadable.  Also one section of the manual seems
> > to say that
> > the area
> > > is cleared at IPL time, the other section seems to say it 
> is cleared
> > before it
> > > is reassigned.
> > 
> > Clearing cyl 0 only does not prevent you from reading the 
> other cyls 
> > on the volume; it simply stops you from mounting it in the "usual" 
> > fashion.
> > 
> > The z/VM Secure Configuration Guide tells you to enable 
> CLEAR_TDISK in 
> > SYSTEM CONFIG.  If you configure your system much the way it is 
> > described in that book, your auditor won't have any arguments with 
> > you.
> > 
> > Alan Altmark
> > z/VM Development
> > IBM Endicott
> > 
> 

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