Close, but I am not willing to grant you a cigar. If all, or even most, have the same Signalled by id, then either a "signal shutdown all" was done or a program did multiple "signal shutdown user userid" commands in rapid sequence.
Regards, Richard Schuh > -----Original Message----- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Raymond Noal > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 3:38 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: SHUTTRAP > > Richard, > > You can use the CP command - 'Q SIGNALS' to make your > determinations, as in - > > q signals > Signalled Timeout > Userid Signal Signal Status By Remaining > LN192209 SHUTDOWN Enabled - - > VMSERVR SHUTDOWN Enabled - - > VMSERVU SHUTDOWN Enabled - - > VMSERVS SHUTDOWN Enabled - - > > Happy parsing!! > > Raymond E. Noal > > EMC² > where information lives > > Phone: (508) 249-4076 > Ext: 44076 > > -----Original Message----- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 6:22 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: SHUTTRAP > > Given the lack of direction, I suppose that you can do almost > anything, so long as you are consistent. There is no right or > wrong, so logging off will work so long as the watchdog > machine does not bring logged off users back on. Is there any > way for a user to determine if it is being targeted alone, by > a "signal shutdown user userid" or is included in a "signal > shutdown all"? I suspect not, but I can see where that might > be useful at times. Also, CP does notice when a user who has > requested the shutdown signal logs off and cancels the > request, does it not? It must because a virtual machine can > log off at any time, regardless of the shutdown signal, and > CP has to handle it correctly. Does CP disallow new logons > when it receives "signal shutdown all" command? > > Regards, > Richard Schuh > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > > [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark > > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 1:56 PM > > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > > Subject: Re: SHUTTRAP > > > > On Tuesday, 06/28/2011 at 03:10 EDT, "Schuh, Richard" > > <rsc...@visa.com> > > wrote: > > > No only is it not obvious, so far I have been unable to > find it in > > > the documentation. You can specify a wait state code on the > > SHUTDOWN > > > command > > and > > > it can be anything between 1 and FFFF. I cannot find where > > the default > > is FFF. > > > Is that a true system default or is it a code you have > adopted for > > > your > > use? > > > > You will not find any published information on the mechanism. > > > > I *observe* that if you SIGNAL SHUTDOWN to a 2nd level VM, it will > > load wait state FFF and the SIGNAL SHUTDOWN command gives a > > "successful termination" message. > > > > Draw your own conclusions. > > > > Alan Altmark > > > > Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant IBM System Lab > Services and > > Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices > > office: 607.429.3323 > > mobile; 607.321.7556 > > alan_altm...@us.ibm.com > > IBM Endicott > > >
