Spoon,
        ximian is not free software !!

With Warm Regards
Tarun Upadhyay

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> i.org] On Behalf Of Spoonman
> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 5:01 AM
> To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list
> Subject: Re: [ilugd] Re: Office Depot Aids Monopoly{This is 
> not a troll}
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> On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 12:29:16AM -0400, Tarun Upadhyay wrote:
> Tarun>I will bite (and change my email client) if somebody 
> can show me 
> Tarun>an email client that can talk to MS-Exchange (and yes, 
> I do need 
> Tarun>those shared folders and shared calendars !!) and please do not 
> Tarun>get me started on why I need shared calendars 
> integrated with my 
> Tarun>email client. If you have never used, you will never 
> understand it.
>       Actully I do. Its the same reason that drives people to buy
>       Microsoft office. The same reason people send you a MS word
>       templates when you show intrest in writing in their magazines
>       and neither your talking about the need to deprecate properietry
>       file formats nor your telling them that alternative softwares
>       exist has any effect on them. The editor uses MS word and that 
>       is an answer you cant do anything about.
>       
> Tarun>Alternatively, show me a good open source alternative to  
> Tarun>MS-Exchange that does that on server side - reliably. I 
> know of an 
> Tarun>obscure product from Samsung but other than that in my 
> ten years 
> Tarun>of managing systems (linux and windows included), I 
> have not seen 
> Tarun>any. Last year, I got desperate even asked the question on 
> Tarun>slashdot But did not get any good replies, so I have 
> little hopes from linux-delhi.
>       look at ximian evolution. it does all the things you are
>       cribbing about.
> Tarun>Hell, I will raise the bar and even offer $69 (my 
> outlook license 
> Tarun>fee) for anybody who can convince me that there exist an 
> Tarun>alternative (open source) to outlook-exchange that is 
> at least as 
> Tarun>reliable and allows me to share my calendar and contact 
> database 
> Tarun>with my colleagues (with security that I can configure 
> from my client and not from server).
>       There is something called ximian connect. take a look.
> 
> Tarun>I do not want to sound as if I like Microsoft or 
> Outlook a lot. I 
> Tarun>feel equally sad that there are no good open source 
> alternatives 
> Tarun>and do hope that one comes up. However, pretending that there 
> Tarun>exist one when there isnt any will not get us anywhere 
> (nor will 
> Tarun>ridiculing people who use Outlook). There might be 
> people for whom 
> Tarun>open source is a principle in life and they are willing to live 
> Tarun>with anything but would use only open source software. For me, 
> Tarun>using open source tools is preferable and valuable but 
> not at the cost of quality and productivity.
>       The point is not about the lack of alternatives. Alternatives
>       exist. there is always more then one way to do it.
> 
>       The problem lies with people. people do not want to
>       change. People want to continue doing things just as they have
>       been doing. a "new" however "better" solution is unacceptable.
>       
>       if linuxlingam would try making "me" change form mutt to kmail
>       he has a might tough job on his hands.
> 
>       cheers!
> - --
> all the things we keep inside,
> are the things that really matter,
> the face puts on its best disguise,
> and all is well, until the heart betrays.
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