I've read this whole thread, and it's time to add my 2 cents.

The Pentium is not an x86 microprocessor:
None of the references in this thread came directly from Intel.  But
take a look at this web site: 
http://www.intel.com/design/support/faq/embed_proces/x86faq.htm. 
Following is a passage from this site that proves solid evidence that
the Pentium is not an x86 processor.

>What is the speed range of the Intel x86 embedded microprocessors?
>Speeds range from 12Mhz-100MHz and vary from product to product
according to design needs; >please refer to the embedded products
reference guide for specifics. If additional speed is >needed for your
embedded design, we recommend looking at embedded Intel(r) Pentium(r)
>products or Intel XScale(r) products.

It says speed can range from 12-100MHz.  Last time I checked the PII,
PIII, PIV, PM, PD processor ran way above 100 MHz.  Yes some original
Pentiums ran below 100MHz, but this passage proves that even those
processors aren't x86, "If additional speed is needed for your
embedded design, we recommend looking at embedded Intel(r) Pentium(r)
products..."  It does not say they recommend looking at 586, 686, or
786 processors, it says look at Pentium products.  Therefore, Pentium
is separate from x86 according to Intel.  And they should know, it's
their product.

>The only Macs that have ever publicly run on x86-class processors
were the developer-only >Pentium-based machines.

Untrue.  x86 is not Pentium.

>Then I guess they don't make "x86" processors anymore. KIND OF MY POINT.

Untrue.  Intel still makes x86 processors.  It says so on the site I
mentioned above.
>Is the Intel(r) x86 product life cycle different than other embedded
processors typical life cycles?
>Because the Intel(r) x86 microprocessor is part of the embedded
processor market, there is no set >life cycle. Unlike Intel's PC based
products that are continually being upgraded and replaced by >higher
performance versions, embedded processors tend to have relatively long
life cycles. x86 >products have been in production for over 10 years
with no current plans to discontinue them.

I'd also like to talk a little about netiquette.  When you type in all
caps it means you are shouting.  There is no reason to shout over a
debate like this.  Think about it, would you shout in real life if
someone was arguing about this same topic?  Since this is a plain text
list, you obviously can't italicize.  Instead of typing in all caps to
add emphasis, put _underscores_ at the beginning and end of the word,
phrase, or sentence you want to emphasize.  Also, flaming is just
unacceptable.  It's rude and crass.  This list is not a place for that
type of behavior.

Thank you for taking the time to read over this.
Andrew Conachey

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