Here's an idea, have the client who is sending the emails do the following:

1. Send an email with the attachment, same way as usual that gets blocked.
(or just use one of the ones you already have as a point of reference)
2. Send another email, this time with that first email sent as an
attachment.

You should end up with 1 email that is the usual type with the messed up
attachment, and another that should come through and manage to avoid
whatever is appending the original.  Compare source code for both and you
might be able to find the discrepancy that's throwing it off.  Chances are
there's something on one of those forwarding PC's that is messing it up.

Sam

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of IMail Admin
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 3:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] help needed with disappearing attachment

Thanks for the suggestion of the footer.  We are running Declude (both AV
and Spam), but we don't have it configured to add a footer.  The only it
does is add an "x-note" line to the header.  In general, this client has no
trouble receiving PDF attachments to the same mailbox.  In fact, we went so
far as to contact the source of the email.  They sent a series of test
messages (with the same attachment) that all came through.  The only
difference was that these test messages were sent by a different user
through a different set of forwarding PCs.

In general, even though we don't use footers, I like your idea. I can
imagine that the source system malforms their messages in a way that is
incompatible with Imail.

Ben
----- Original Message -----
From: "Samuel J Stanaitis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 12:02 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] help needed with disappearing attachment


Sounds like it's being filtered out if anything, or there is some software
on the server side that filters and adds a header/footer to the message.
Have you been able to send any PDF files to this user?  I had a problem
where the footer appended to a message by Declude Virus was causing emailed
appointments in Outlook to get messed up.  I removed the footer and
everything went back to normal.  Not sure why it would specifically target
PDF's in your case, unless there's just a line of code at the start or end
of the PDF attachment that is getting tied into a footer, and not being read
by the client correctly.  When you see the message in the client, is the
email message the same size as it would be with the actual attachment, or is
it smaller?

I figure either something is filtering it out at the server, or there is
some sort of header/footer info being tacked on to the emails by the server
that is interfering.

Sam

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of IMail Admin
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 2:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [IMail Forum] help needed with disappearing attachment

We have a client who receives a critical email early every couple of
mornings.  This email contains an important PDF file attachment.  The
problem is that the attachment disappears: the email shows up with no sign
of the attachment.  We can't figure how this is happening, since there are
no other problems with attachments to (or from) that mailbox.  One strange
thing is that almost looks like the attachment has merged (invisibly) into
the body of the message.  Here are the full details:

This client is retiring their Exchange server and outsourcing their email to
us.  Previously, they used Outlook 97 for email, now they are switched to
Outlook Express 6.  This important email comes in twice a week with a
roughly 120 KB attachment, which is a PDF file.  This email is actually sent
to an alias ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) which forwards to three users (eric,
george, and mike).  They use IMAP for access.  As of the changeover to us,
the messages began showing up without the attachment.

I ran a series of tests.  The client can receive all other emails with
attachments just fine.  I went so far as to send them a couple of files with
large (1.6 MB) attachments, which they received without trouble.  They
receive other emails (with attachments) from this same source without
problem.  I see no sign of the missing attachment on our server.  In fact, I
cannot replicate the problem -- I can't make an attachment disappear.  You
might think that this would be a problem on the other end (the sender), but
they send to a group of people and our client is the only one with a
problem, and only since switching to us.

One other interesting thing: I noticed that the email (with the attachment
missing) had a lot of blank space at the end of the message.  I was curious
about this, so I used the IMail Client program to open the email.  There is
some sort of option within the IMail client to save the message as a .bin
file, which I then opened with notebook.  It appears that the data from the
PDF attachment has been merged into the email message body.  I have no idea
why this would occur or how to fix it.  The client is understandably upset
with us, so any help would be greatly appreaciated.  Thanks,

Ben
BC Web


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