----- Original Message ----- 
From: "A. Clausen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> > Yes, but there's 56 domains reporting Caller-ID. You can't count them
> > out<g>.
>
> All things being equal, I'd say that SPF has become the defacto standard.
> Even if Microsoft manages to pull one off here (which I doubt, as I'm sure
> their position on releasing it without anchors to sink open source), it's
so
> far behind in the game that I can't see it being anything but a bit
player.
> They screwed themselves by trying to be a**holes to the open source crowd,
> and to all those who didn't want to have one of the key areas of Internet
> architecture locked into by a certain gang in Redmond, Washington.
>
> Between SPF, ISPs blocking outgoing port 25 traffic to all but MTAs,
> greylisting, anti-spam software like Declue and vigorous blackholing of
the
> few "legitimate' spammers out there, I think the marginalization of spam
is
> probably forseeable in the next two or three years.  My feeling is that MS
> trying to push Sender ID through is just an example of closing the barn
door
> after the cows have come home.

A lot of people have fallen victim to this same misguided belief in the
past, and history has proven otherwise.  In this instance, we shall see...

Bill


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