I would guess the following: (Only my opinion folks.) > 1) Can IMail owners, regardless of SA status, buy additional licenses for > their own company?
Yes. > 2) Can IMail owners, regardless of SA status, buy new licenses for their > clients' companies? Maybe. For use as their e-mail server, no. For use as a gateway for Exchange or such, yes. > 3) Can a non-IMail owner contract Ipswitch and purchase the stand-alone > product? No. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:IMail_Forum- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Gregg > Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 7:50 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] OT: Need to Vent - SPF > > Jill, > > I appreciate the position you are in but really need to get answers to the > following: > > and finally.. > 4) what is the cost for each of the above 'case by case' scenarios? > > Thanks again for your attention to this matter. > > Regards, > > David Gregg > dgSoft Internet Services > +1.949.584-1514 > > --- > mxGuard for IMail > Adds anti-spam *and* anti-virus capabilities to your IMail server. > $99 unlimited domains/users. No service agreements. > > Download and install a free trial version today. > http://www.mxGuard.com/Postmaster/FreeTrial.asp > --- > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jill Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 7:37 AM > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] OT: Need to Vent - SPF > > > > Hi David, > > > > We have stated that any customer looking to purchase stand-alone IMail > > should call us and we will consider each situation. > > > > Jill > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Gregg > > Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 10:28 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] OT: Need to Vent - SPF > > > > Hi Jill, > > > > I've seen multiple posts from Ipswitch staff indicating support for > > existing > > > > customers (i.e. SA are available). What I have not seen is a definitive > > statement on whether or not the stand-alone product can be purchased and > > if > > so, what the price will be. > > > > Please advise... > > > > Regards, > > > > David Gregg > > dgSoft Internet Services > > +1.949.584-1514 > > > > --- > > mxGuard for IMail > > Adds anti-spam *and* anti-virus capabilities to your IMail server. > > $99 unlimited domains/users. No service agreements. > > > > Download and install a free trial version today. > > http://www.mxGuard.com/Postmaster/FreeTrial.asp > > --- > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jill Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 6:36 AM > > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] OT: Need to Vent - SPF > > > > > >> Hi All, > >> > >> I believe that we have made it clear on a number of occasions that we > >> intend > >> to enhance and support the core IMail product as it is central to ICS. > >> Features like SPF will absolutely be added to IMail and will be available > >> to > >> those users who have IMail Service Agreements. > >> > >> Best regards, > >> Jill > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted Galerneau > >> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 5:11 PM > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] OT: Need to Vent > >> > >> I know exactly what you mean Darin, and you could be totally right. Dang, > >> I > >> hate it whenever I am undecided about something and feel like I don't > >> want > >> to move forwards until it's solved. > >> > >> I could easily just buy Declude and hang in here, but the fact that some > >> of > >> the other email servers sell for less than the price of Declude pro and > >> some > >> others for less than the cost of Declude's yearly SA alone. Declude has > >> many > >> features you will not find in other email server offerings, however some > >> of > >> the other email servers don't have features that Declude with Imail has. > >> The > >> cost of a yearly SA for both Declude and Imail would easily pay for a > >> full > >> unlimited license of several different email server offerings that come > >> with > >> a year of support and upgrades. A subsequent upgrade SA from those > >> companies > >> is much less than it would be with IMail and Declude together and some > >> are > >> even less that the cost of a Declude SA. If a person is willing to deal > >> with > >> FreeBSD, there are some really powerful offerings out there for free. > >> > >> Ipswitch knows that we have a known stable product to work with and tons > >> of > >> support right here on this forum. Most other email servers are an unknown > >> to > >> us and don't have the support community that Imail does. I suspect that > >> is > >> part of their motivating factor for the new pricing scam. If you don't > >> pay > >> more for the SA, you would need to eventually buy ICS whenever something > >> breaks the Imail core and an upgrade is mandatory, which has happened > >> before > >> and will likely happen again in the future! > >> > >> The only other thing I have left to consider is about trust and ethics. > >> After all Ipswitch has done and their weak attempt to smooth things over, > >> there are new questions. Can we trust them to not bind any of the new > >> features that we need only to ICS and not the core? If they are greedy > >> enough to pull what they've already done on us, would they be greedy > >> enough > >> to do that? Take a feature like SPF for instance as they could easily > >> code > >> it to only work with ICS and not with just the core Imail, then give some > >> lame excuse about the way the code works not allowing them to do it that > >> way. I am not implying they would do this for sure, I am just saying they > >> could if they wanted to. I've said before and I will say again, once > >> corporate greed sets in, it spreads like a cancer! This is the real > >> reason > > > >> I > >> am having trouble deciding if I want to stay with IMail or what other > >> product to go with for our email needs. It's now more about ethics and > >> trust > >> to me that it is the money. If I wait and continue and use Imail in our > >> newest idea, it means that needing to change later could break what I > >> would > >> be building around Imail. It may be easier to just fix it now rather than > >> wait and gamble that Imail will do the right things from here on. > >> > >> What say you Ipswitch management? I believe this is the second time I've > >> asked for an official response about this possible issue. > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox > >> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 6:30 AM > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] OT: Need to Vent > >> > >> I really doubt this. It's very hard to get everyone to agree to new > >> standards, as all of the big players will be fighting for their own > >> agendas. > >> Take a look at what has happened to SPF as an example. > >> <Snip> > >> > >> > >> To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > >> List Archive: > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > >> Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > >> > >> > >> To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > >> List Archive: > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > >> Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > >> > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > > List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > > List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > > > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
