To try and eliminate at least part of this discussion, lets go with
your position that he's your customer regardless of who he
is physically connected to at any given point in time, and that he is
using 'pop before smtp' authentication to avoid you running an open relay.

Great, and fine, we agree on this.

You still have completely failed to explain WHY this configuartion is not
compatible with my stated practice of blocking outbound port 25 for the ip
ranges dynamicaly used by dialup users.

That is after all the point of this thread: the practice of some network
admins of preventing dialup customers from running their own smtp servers
behind their dialup connection.

When your customer's are roaming, by definition they are not using one
of your dialup ports, nor are they using an ip address from your dynamic
dialup ip pool. So how can they possibly be effected by this practice?

-Alan

>| If someone, as in your example, is connected to AOL and is sending a
>| message to an MSN address, then at that specific point in time, they
>| are not your customer, they are an AOL customer and as such should be
>| using AOL's smtp servers, definatly not yours.
>
>He is my client because I manage his mailbox on my servers and I get paid
>for that ! . He might have another ADSL internet access at his office, and
>Wanadoo access at home, and know he is on an AOL access at his girlfriends
>summerhouse. He then calls me, and asks : how do I configure my smtp server
>in outlook ? And there is no EASY answer to this question, because it will
>depend on several factors , and there have been changes during the last 8
>years. Using the ISP smtp is the prefered choice for stable connexion, but
>for roaming custumers I will still prefer my own smtp servers which can
>authenticate him in anycase through 'pop before smtp' , or the known ip
>adress classes for his various acces
>
>|
>| In your post, you claim that would be eating up your bandwidth in both
>| directions, as the message came in from AOL and then as it left going to
>| MSN. If you are allowing people connected to AOL to send email to MSN via
>| your smtp server, then you are an open relay.
>
>No, I'm not an open relay because I manage the adresse [EMAIL PROTECTED] ,
>which is the 'from' adress for this mail.
>
>|
>| I can't believe that's what you are actually stating, so I must be
>| misunderstanding your post, sorry.
>
>My example was not very good because it intended to be general , but
>1. most people on aol have their email adresse, so the example was
>improbable, and
>2. I was not talking specific AOL issue.
>
> I should have taken an example such as : the mail is sent from a uunet
>internet access, to an MSN acount, for a client whose domain is managed on
>my servers.
>And my conclusion is : I choose the isp's smtp server whenever possible
>(80%), and mine for the others (20%)
>Benoit
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