I understand that, and I am all opensourcy myself, but in this case, initial conversations with Sun's TM lawyers need to be made by a Sun employee. I have the best interests of this community at heart.
Sara

Chris Mahan wrote:
Sara,

Not to be all opensourcy and all, but it seems to me that a discussion that's of import to this community is happening behind closed doors. I for one am not excited about this at all.



On 6/26/07, *Sara Dornsife* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

    I am starting discussions with Sun's lawyers on behalf of this
    community
    to see what we can do about the use of the TM and name. The end result
    as I see it is to have more freedom with it's use. Whether for this
    distro or to create my own tshirt or print up a poster. I will
    follow up
    with options.
    Sara



    Stephen Lau wrote:
    > This thread is growing out of control, so can I please make a
    suggestion.
    >
    > Everybody stop, calm down, and let's all enjoy the weekend.  Logical
    > arguments are fine, but the messages now are getting into
    name-calling
    > and accusations.  There's no call for that here.  We're too
    nascent a
    > community to already start fragmenting over something that isn't
    even
    > *technology*.  We're arguing about a name here.  Keep that in mind.
    >
    > So the main point of contention is about the use of the name
    > "OpenSolaris".  We can argue all we want about what Sun wants, and
    > about what the community wants.  (And if you've read my replies, you
    > know how I feel already - I won't reiterate it here).
    >
    > Why don't we just make it a poll?  We've got the whizzy polling
    > infrastructure.... instead of bickering back and forth like
    > schoolkids, let's put it up to a vote.
    >
    > cheers,
    > steve
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