Dan Scott wrote:
On 29/11/2007, Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Nov 29, 2007 5:56 PM, Stanislav Malyshev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
No, it is not more important. 99.9% of PHP users don't care what process
we have, they care about how well PHP works for them. If we had best
process in the world but no support for what people need - people won't
use PHP just to commend us for oh so good process. Process is important,
but it's a *tool*, not the *goal*.
Actually, I believe the latest Gallup Poll sponsored by CNN put
that number at 97.3%. ;-P
Besides, as I read the message you quoted, my understand was that
Pierre was inferring that it's more important for the community to
have standardized guidelines for contributions, rather than bend to
the whim of one party: in this case, IBM.
Ok, Kreskin - assuming you're as out of the loop as most of the rest
of us, if this is purely an IBM thing, why are MySQL AB employees
signing up for this (see CVS account request from Jay Pipes)? MySQL
AB has its own CLA for contributions to the MySQL code base:
http://forge.mysql.com/wiki/MySQL_Contributor_License_Agreement. Maybe
they're the ones pushing for a CLA this time around.
No, MySQL is not pushing for CLAs to be used for PHP core components.
MySQL is the owner of the MySQL code base. That is why we require our
contributors to sign CLAs (Contributor License Agreements); otherwise,
we would not be in the position to offer our server in the same form
dually licensed both under the GPL and under commercial licenses. We
have always developed MySQL with this central control, and our ecosystem
is aware of it.
With PHP, the situation is different. The foundation of PHP was laid by
Rasmus Lerdorf together with a large group of independent developers,
and the central parts of PHP underly a different license and copyright
regime from MySQL.
Given this different licensing background, we understand that core PHP
developers don't favour CLAs. They grew PHP without CLAs and without one
single, commercial copyright holder. And they see no milestone event
absolutely requiring CLAs at this point.
At the same time, we do understand that from the point of those who
advocate CLAs, CLAs are the default way for achieving clarity on IP
ownership. That said, from our perspective, there is no compelling need
for substantial change from status quo.
-Jay
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