On Sep 11, 2010, at 2:00 PM, Randy Bush wrote:

>>> So the onus is on operators to turn their good business reasons into
>>> engineering problems, eg as a requirements RFC, that the IETF will
>>> then solve.
> 
> no.  it is the duty of operators to turn their business plans into
> operational practice, deliver packets, and charge the customers.
> 
> and it is for ietf to get running code and protocol specs.
> 
> and it is not the duty of ietf to create or constrain operators'
> business plans or delivery.

It certainly *is* the role of the IETF to develop tools the the operators can 
use to do that. I don't know how we accomplish that without talking with one 
another. Could we end the pissing match?
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