On Mar 27, 11:13 am, JodaStephen <jodastep...@googlemail.com> wrote: > My take is simple - I'd like to see a clear, detailed, technically > argued, document available on the internet that explains WHY project > Jigsaw needs to exist, and WHY OSGi can't. AFAIK, this detailed > technical reasoning hasn't been published - I'd like to read it if it > has.
So, now it is a discussion of OSGi being said to cease its existence? This is not the case for Jigsaw purpose. It is just Sun's engineers didn't found OSGi suitable as a solution for a problem they are trying to solve. I don't want to see document you ask for - I like to see a document that compares both implementations. > > After all, if there are good technical reasons why OSGi isn't > suitable, then we should all welcome Jigsaw. But if there aren't good > technical reasons, then we should be asking what really justifies > Jigsaw's existence. I think Dick stated there are some problems with OSGi and I hope Jigsaw engineers are aware of those. I don't think you can judge technical solution without implementation. There is no product without flaws, so trying to remake modularization in different way from scratch is a way to go for Jigsaw. > > I also believe that innovation is good. So, there is no reason why any > person/group shouldn't be allowed to challenge the status quo of the > leader in any technology (as Spring did). Where I have a problem is if > a major player (Sun in this case) uses market power (owning the JDK) > to mount that challenge. Without the technical rationale, we can't > fairly judge if market power is being misused against OSGi, or a > sensible choice being made. Just make OSGi better and cut your ill attitude when advocating it. Take Reinier's and Roman's post as advice. Saying that some project shouldn't even start when advocating one in the same domain is clearly evil to me. I don't know OSGi, but seeing it adopted in many places means it have to be a good solution, but it surely isn't perfect and yet again its community shouldn't be afraid of competition. It will benefit OSGi for sure. So loosen up a little. Regards Wojciech Halicki-Piszko --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
