My main issue with all of this is not what is being done, but that the
RC has slipped from February to October/November timeframe. Thread
Hijack!
On Nov 19, 10:16 am, Reinier Zwitserloot <reini...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Clarifications straight from Mark Reinhold at the later BOF here at
> #devoxx.
>
> 1. His syntax is a strawman written up in de airplane. The point is:
> Mark and friends have always loved closures, they just weren't sure
> java should have them, as it has such a big impact on the feel of the
> language. It is NOT AN ENDORSEMENT OF FCM. He was very specific about
> that. He was also quite specific about keeping it simple (willing to
> give up transparency et al). The point is, yes closures, no
> complexity. Syntax is a teensy tiny detail of this, so don't get hung
> up on that aspect.
>
> 2. For reasons unrelated to the new language features in java7, java7
> will be delayed from feb to at least sept. There's time, so, the scope
> of lang features for java7 has just expanded. Thus, this is NOT AN
> INDICTMENT on Project Coin at all. On the contrary, Joe Darcy is here,
> and he's planning on running more coins for the future. Mark Reinhold
> *SPECIFICALLY* said he does not believe the JCP is a good source of
> innovation, which seems like an *endorsement* of coin.
>
> 3. During the closure wars of 2007, Mark decided to let the dust
> settle and play with the prototypes.
>
> 4. As java7 is delayed A LOT (due to the apache/sun tiff in the JCP),
> and even the JDK7 has been delayed quite a bit (to at least sept),
> java8 is of course also going to be around much later. So, Mark has
> realized that now is probably the right time.
>
> 5. Of course there will be discussion with the community about how to
> do it. He's also been privately talking to lots of key players in sun,
> and they've all indicated they think it's time for closures, too.
>
> 6. Parallel Arrays are involved as a driving force behind the notion
> that closures are needed.
>
> 7. Another feature that's back on the 'maybe' list is multicatch:
> catch (IllegalAccessException | InvocationTargetException e) { ... do
> stuff with e...}
>
> Reporting from Devoxx,
>
> --Reinier Zwitserloot
>
> On Nov 19, 9:26 am, Fabrizio Giudici <fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Casper Bang wrote:
> > > True, still confusing though. The release seems to have been
> > > postponed, JDK7 features are not final just like Coin is not final
> > > (http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/coin-dev/2009-November/
> > > 002461.html). Does that mean the community has a new window for
> > > contributing?
>
> > I'm not understanding anything - it sounds as everybody attending Devoxx
> > got it in a slightly changed way. An official blog post would be
> > welcome, at this point.
>
> > Yes, it seems that the releaseo of JDK7 has been postponed to the end of
> > 2010. If it's the case, I understand it's a reasonable thing to re-think
> > the features. But, please, communicate in the proper way!
>
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