hello;

well;
if I were wanting to print out an envelope,
using word 2007,

1, menu right arrow until you hear mailing tab,
now, use the tab key, the first press of the tab key you will see/hear,
envelope.
now, press enter.
or, within the document,
press,
alt+m+e,
you don't press enter on the mailings tab,
however, if your using the jaws virtual ribbon feature,

then after going to the menu,
right arrow to mailings tab, now press enter,
now right arrow one time, you will see envelope.
I don't use the jaws ribbon feature, so, I can use the shortcut keys.




-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 9:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Ribbons Navigation


It's not that simple.  Here's a specific example of why the ribbon menus are

so maddening.  Suppose I want to print an envelope using Word 2007, but I 
can't recall the quick tip keys to access the Envelopes option on the 
Mailings tab.  First, I press Alt to bring up the menu tabs, then use right 
arrow to scroll to the Mailings tab and select it by pressing Enter.  The 
first item I encounter after pressing Tab is Labels.  If I continue to tab 
from this point, I will get dozens of options , but never encounter the 
Envelopes option.  However, if I navigate back to the Labels option and then

press Shift-Tab or Shift-left arrow, the Envelopes option magically appears.

This behavior certainly doesn't make any sense to me.  Why doesn't the 
Envelopes option appear when you keep pressing Tab?  Why do you have to 
press Shift-Tab from the Labels option to find it?  And navigating the 
ribbon menus in MS Office is one thing, but what about the ribbon menus for 
Windows Explorer and Internet Explorer which are used in Windows 8? This is 
a whole other ball game altogether.

Gerald


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "david" <davidwhitehead1...@cogeco.ca>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Ribbons Navigation


> hello;
> well here's my take on the ribbons,
> obviously, you have an upper and lower part of the ribbon.
> the upper part is primarily the various tabs, example:
> home, insert, page layout, etc,
> the lower part of the ribbon provides the various setting for each of the
> tabs.
> to access the settings, use the tab key,
> now you may hear things such as, 1 of 4, one of 8,
> so, by using the tab key, you'll stay in the lower part of the ribbon, and
> stay focused on the particular tab title.
> if you go to the top of the ribbon,
> now do a ctrl+tab, you will hear such things as,
> page numbers button, use the right arrow,or the tab key,
> word count,
> spelling and grammar button,
> etc,
> also,
> keep in mind, you can find many settings, access,
> when you use the applications key in word.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of jim rawls
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 11:24 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Ribbons Navigation
>
> Mike, if the powers that be won't post it to the list, please send it to 
> me.
> I just
> plain flunk out of the using ribbons class. I just don't know how to use 
> it.
> Send
> it to:
> jazzpi...@ca.rr.com.
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of
> Mike B.
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 4:35 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Ribbons Navigation
>
> Hi Flor & All,
>
> I thank you very much for your input & ideas but, I found a little program
> called UBit that makes navigating the ribbons a much more simple endeavor!
> I'll send the information & steps I've typed up to the head honcho & let 
> him
>
> make the decision on if it can be posted or not.  Thank you all again.
> Take care.
> Mike
> This email was sent from my, iBarstool.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Flor Lynch
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 2:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Ribbons Navigation
>
>
> Mike,
>
> I'll try this in general brief but rough summary, dealing with the idea
> of it. You're familiar with tab controls? The different pages (ctrl+tab)
> you get in multi-page dialog boxes? Well, ribbons are much the same as
> them. You can also right- or left-arrow between each of them. Now you
> have lower ribbons, or sub-ribbons, which will be accessed through their
> parent ribbons - often down-arrow from such if there's a sub-or
> lower-ribbon present on an option. The JAWS Virtual Ribbons are not the
> real Ribbons, and indeed, in some cases they rearrange many things in
> the structure and leave other things out. Another way to regard them is
> as if they were toobars activated with buttons. (You may recall Excel
> had plenty of those.)
>
> Now the good news is that there are many, many hot keys associated with
> the items in the Ribbons, that can be activated. However, it does take
> longer to accomplish a task i.e., more keystrokes, that formerly used to
> be a quite simple structural through the menu approach. Things are now
> more layered than they were, i.e. more vertical rather than linear.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike B." <mb69ma...@charter.net>
> To: "Jaws-Users List" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 9:09 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Ribbons Navigation
>
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I'll get right to the point.  The ribbons in Office 07 & up frustrate
>> the
>> hell out of me!  I've been searching for a good tutorial that explains
>> the
>> ribbons, i.e, both upper & lower, & navigating the with without using
>> the
>> Jaws Virtual Ribbons option & I'm not having any luck.  I just can't
>> get the
>> hang  or get my head wrapped around on how to navigate ribbons & I
>> guess
>> it's high time I start living in the new world of Office!  I would
>> really
>> like a tutorial that really breaks the ribbons & navigating them down
>> in
>> simple, easy to understand steps.  I need something really simple
>> because
>> I'm certainly a knucklehead when it comes to this ribbons crap!  LOL,
>> hahaha hahaha hahaha,  LOL
>>
>> So folks, any help will be graciously accepted & greatly appreciated.
>> Thanks much.
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> This email was sent from my, iBarstool.
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