Re: [JAWS-Users] Ribbons Navigation

Gerald Levy Sun, 16 Mar 2014 06:56:28 -0700

It's not that simple. Here's a specific example of why the ribbon menus areso maddening. Suppose I want to print an envelope using Word 2007, but Ican't recall the quick tip keys to access the Envelopes option on theMailings tab. First, I press Alt to bring up the menu tabs, then use rightarrow to scroll to the Mailings tab and select it by pressing Enter. Thefirst item I encounter after pressing Tab is Labels. If I continue to tabfrom this point, I will get dozens of options , but never encounter theEnvelopes option. However, if I navigate back to the Labels option and thenpress Shift-Tab or Shift-left arrow, the Envelopes option magically appears.This behavior certainly doesn't make any sense to me. Why doesn't theEnvelopes option appear when you keep pressing Tab? Why do you have topress Shift-Tab from the Labels option to find it? And navigating theribbon menus in MS Office is one thing, but what about the ribbon menus forWindows Explorer and Internet Explorer which are used in Windows 8? This isa whole other ball game altogether.


Gerald

----- Original Message -----From: "david" <davidwhitehead1...@cogeco.ca>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Ribbons Navigation

hello;
well here's my take on the ribbons,
obviously, you have an upper and lower part of the ribbon.
the upper part is primarily the various tabs, example:
home, insert, page layout, etc,
the lower part of the ribbon provides the various setting for each of the
tabs.
to access the settings, use the tab key,
now you may hear things such as, 1 of 4, one of 8,
so, by using the tab key, you'll stay in the lower part of the ribbon, and
stay focused on the particular tab title.
if you go to the top of the ribbon,
now do a ctrl+tab, you will hear such things as,
page numbers button, use the right arrow,or the tab key,
word count,
spelling and grammar button,
etc,
also,
keep in mind, you can find many settings, access,
when you use the applications key in word.

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jim rawls
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 11:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Ribbons Navigation

Mike, if the powers that be won't post it to the list, please send it tome.

I just

plain flunk out of the using ribbons class. I just don't know how to useit.

Send
it to:
jazzpi...@ca.rr.com.
Jim

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 4:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Ribbons Navigation

Hi Flor & All,

I thank you very much for your input & ideas but, I found a little program
called UBit that makes navigating the ribbons a much more simple endeavor!

I'll send the information & steps I've typed up to the head honcho & lethim


make the decision on if it can be posted or not.  Thank you all again.
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----From: Flor Lynch

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Ribbons Navigation

Mike,

I'll try this in general brief but rough summary, dealing with the idea
of it. You're familiar with tab controls? The different pages (ctrl+tab)
you get in multi-page dialog boxes? Well, ribbons are much the same as
them. You can also right- or left-arrow between each of them. Now you
have lower ribbons, or sub-ribbons, which will be accessed through their
parent ribbons - often down-arrow from such if there's a sub-or
lower-ribbon present on an option. The JAWS Virtual Ribbons are not the
real Ribbons, and indeed, in some cases they rearrange many things in
the structure and leave other things out. Another way to regard them is
as if they were toobars activated with buttons. (You may recall Excel
had plenty of those.)

Now the good news is that there are many, many hot keys associated with
the items in the Ribbons, that can be activated. However, it does take
longer to accomplish a task i.e., more keystrokes, that formerly used to
be a quite simple structural through the menu approach. Things are now
more layered than they were, i.e. more vertical rather than linear.

----- Original Message -----From: "Mike B." <mb69ma...@charter.net>

To: "Jaws-Users List" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 9:09 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Ribbons Navigation

Hi All,

I'll get right to the point.  The ribbons in Office 07 & up frustrate
the
hell out of me!  I've been searching for a good tutorial that explains
the
ribbons, i.e, both upper & lower, & navigating the with without using
the
Jaws Virtual Ribbons option & I'm not having any luck.  I just can't
get the
hang  or get my head wrapped around on how to navigate ribbons & I
guess
it's high time I start living in the new world of Office!  I would
really
like a tutorial that really breaks the ribbons & navigating them down
in
simple, easy to understand steps.  I need something really simple
because
I'm certainly a knucklehead when it comes to this ribbons crap!  LOL,
hahaha hahaha hahaha,  LOL

So folks, any help will be graciously accepted & greatly appreciated.
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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