Greg is right. You have to learn them by yourself. College doesn't fill you with all of the cutting edge technologies, but it give you the skill to learn them. Always trying to stay on top of it is the key to succeed.
Bill Greg Nudelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 02/03/2003 01:03:10 PM Please respond to "JDJList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "JDJList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: [jdjlist] RE: gap between universities and employers ???? Get an internship. Download free versions of the products that interest you and play with them -- that is the best kind of experience. Build and host your own Java J2EE website, even if it's just a model. But, don't forget to enjoy your college life! Greg -----Original Message----- From: Tim Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 7:00 AM To: JDJList Subject: [jdjlist] gap between universities and employers ???? Just wanted to pose a question :- Have any of you found there to be a large gap between what universities produce (ie as graduates) and what employers want ? Like for example --- one employer wants someone who has experience with "Advantage Gen". I have no idea what this is and have never come across it before. Maybe some of you might have heard of this ? And another employer wants someone who has skills with the "Rational toolset" . I am not talking about Rational Rose but about products like :- TestManager, TeamTest, ClearCase, ClearQuest. These are just 2 examples of trying to illustrate the point that I am experiencing -- that employers seem to want a whole lot of "skills" that are not taught at universities. I find this quite concerning. Also ofcourse there is the issue that almost all employers want someone who already has "2 or 3 years of commercial experience". What happens to people who have just come out of university ? What sort of job opportunities do they have when employers don't seem to want to "give anything" ? ie they want someone who already knows about these new products that a freshly graduated person has never heard of before. I don't know if it counts as "commercial experience" if for example your university has a final year project -- which is a "real life" problem with a real life client who has come to the university with this problem ? I would hope that it is. ____________________________________________________ To change your JDJList options, please visit: http://www.sys-con.com/java/list.cfm Be respectful! Clean up your posts before replying ____________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________ To change your JDJList options, please visit: http://www.sys-con.com/java/list.cfm Be respectful! Clean up your posts before replying ____________________________________________________ ******************* PLEASE NOTE ******************* This E-Mail/telefax message and any documents accompanying this transmission may contain privileged and/or confidential information and is intended solely for the addressee(s) named above. If you are not the intended addressee/recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of, disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on the contents of this E-Mail/telefax information is strictly prohibited and may result in legal action against you. Please reply to the sender advising of the error in transmission and immediately delete/destroy the message and any accompanying documents. Thank you. ____________________________________________________ To change your JDJList options, please visit: http://www.sys-con.com/java/list.cfm Be respectful! Clean up your posts before replying ____________________________________________________
