colin wrote, about Wally's idea:
> 
> >maybe joni means every time you fall in love you think it's the real thing
> >but it's just a matter of time before your wax wings melt and you land on
> >our ass. if that's what she meant, i agree with mitchell.
> >
> was she being that cyncical? not all love fails.

Maybe not, but there's always change and almost always some
disappointments when people get to know each other. Not that the
disappointments have to lead to the end of the relationship, but it
takes a lot of maturity and genuine love, not play love, to get beyond
them, and focus on the good parts. It doesn't seem like many people can
do that, at least not easily, myself included.

> If, and only if, one
> can take any credence in what has been written about Joni or what she
> hereself has said, I imagine relationships with her would be veyr
> difficult. she  appears demanding and controlling and not very tolerant.

I see her as creative and challenging and emotionally honest, and
wanting that from people she's in a relationship with. I doubt that even
her Sunday friends get away with much bullshit. To people who don't want
such intensity with her, or who just don't think that way, she'd
probably come across as unbearably demanding. Surely, though, her
realness and charm would go a long way toward making a relationship with
her enjoyable, at least in small doses.   

> I wonder if even Joni falls in love with her idea of someone instead of
> the reality of someone?

I think so. The line "and feeling proud to say I love you right out
loud" to me is about her enjoying being in love, a self-satisfaction
feeling, rather than a genuine feeling about a particular person. Even
though she wrote it when she was young, it still makes sense to hear her
sing it now. 

Debra Shea

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