Hi Mags, you wrote:

> There's lots of pressure from peers, parents, doctors, lawyers, as well as
nurses/people who work in the hospital as >well as  the church to do the
"right" thing and relinquish a baby which was born out of "wedlock" (hate
that term but >that's another issue)   Read about the nuns associated with
the Magdalene Laundries scandal in Ireland..and see for >yourself. Cruel
behaviour. ...perhaps that explains the aforementioned venom a la Joan.

I think Joni might have a love/hate relationship with those old-world nuns
she was exposed to and also, I think, when she was in the hospital long-term
with polio as a child.  Why did she turn to them again when she was
pregnant?  One can argue that they were there for her when she felt she
apparently had nowhere else to go.  Now I'm wondering about social services
in Canada back at that time.  Were there no other options for her and was
welfare assistance not available to her?  I recall a "home" here in LA for
unwed mothers back in that time period which was not affiliated with any
religion and was supported by philanthropists.  I remember that some woman
and young girls would go there even though they could have stayed at home
with their parents for the duration of the pregnancy.  They did it because
of the "stigma" at the time.  They could disappear for a few months and then
come back to school and make up any story to explain their absence.  Sad.

My recollection from the Joni articles and interviews is that she kept her
baby for awhile and then sould not support her alone.  She then put her in a
foster home.  Joni had photos of Kilauren as a baby and that is one of the
ways she knew Kilauren was her daughter - because Kilauren also had baby
photos from the same age which matched Joni's.  Chuck promised to take the
baby, she thought she could take the baby back.  Then Chuck reneged and Joni
had to "sign all the papers."

Kakki

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