When we went through the process of establishing the Program Steering
Committee (PSC) required for the incubation process for the GRASS
community into OSGEO there were many of the same issues.

Perhaps talking to some of the key movers on the GRASS PSC. There is a
mentor opportunity that may exist... I think mentoring is a great way
for a new project to work with both OSGEO and the developer community to
make sure everyone (inlcuding the end users) win.
http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/mentor.html

>From what I found, there are many ways to manage a project and open
source projects tend to be an evolving process. So I understand how
rigid processes may impeed progress.

However, there are lots of benefits. For instance as an advocate of open
source projects I am always up against the adage "No one ever got fired
for recomending {Insert Vendor here}". An organization like OSGEO brings
many more tools to the table for those wanting to include open source in
their work flows. The Source code audit process is a great help and
combats the "open source programmers are glorified hackers" vission.

Having returned from Open Source Bootcamp 6: Geospatial this week I
learned that JUMP is even more fragmented and forked than I thought it
was. I think this prevents the JUMP products and their derivatives from
moving to wider adoption and better utility wihtin the geospatial
community.  It was pointed out that FOSS4G lacks on the desktop front.
JUMP is pretty close, but missing that last mile. QGIS is making lots of
strides, especialy with the GRASS connections.

I think bringing the UNIFIED  back to the JAVA UNIFIED MAPPING PROGRAM
could only bolster adoption and strengthen the developer community.

We've already invented the wheel, lets move on to producing a race car.

Cheers

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> Of Sunburned Surveyor
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 13:58
> To: JUMP Users Discussion
> Cc: OpenJump develop and use; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [jump-users] JUMP as an OSGEO project
> 
> David,
> 
> We have a new user list for OpenJUMP:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> We are trying to migrate our users to this new list.
> 
> Some of the requirements for an OSGeo project our outlines here:
> 
> http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/principles.html
> 
> I've been reluctant to push OpenJUMP as an OSGeo project 
> (although it is something I would like to see) because some 
> of the requirements rub against the grain of our current 
> programmer community. To become an OSGeo project you really 
> need to adopt more formal governance procedures and policies. 
> OpenJUMP has a rather informal programming community, and it 
> seems there has been some pushback when I have suggested more 
> formal policies in the past.
> 
> Myabe we have evolved beyond this stage, but I'm still not 
> sure. I think OpenJUMP would get a lot of publicity as an 
> OSGeo project, but I'm not sure if it is currently worth 
> enforcing a rigid structure on our contributin programmers and users.
> 
> I do try to actively participate in OSGeo as a member of the 
> OpenJUMP community.
> 
> I hope this answers some of your questions.
> 
> The Sunburned Surveyor
> 
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Sampson, David 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  Hey folks,
> >
> > What is preventing JUMP from getting into the OSGEO 
> Foundation?  Would 
> > this not be a good thing?
> >
> > Could this maybe be the catalyst to merging all the JUMP 
> variants back 
> > to one?
> >
> > Why would the JUMP community not want to enter OSGEO incubation?
> >
> >
> > Just thought I'd poke and prod.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
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