Michael O'Keefe wrote:
Ralph Shumaker wrote:
Gregory K. Ruiz-Ade wrote:
On May 15, 2008, at 5:49 PM, Ralph Shumaker wrote:

I'm thinking about submitting this as a bug.


Don't forget, you have to have a limit on how small you shrink the scroll bar, and if your display area is small enough and the data large enough, you could conceivably end up with a scroll bar that's one pixel high, or invisible, depending on rounding, and then your scroll bar is practically useless.

No matter how small you'd like it to be, you still have to be able to hit it with the pointer.


Obviously. But ½" is ridiculously large. I think ⅛" (or maybe half that) would be plenty. At that size, it would be rather obvious that the scrollbar has reached it's minimum. Even if it is not that obvious, it would still be *far* more obvious than ½"!

You can't talk in inches when talking about GUI sizes without a frame of reference
1/2" on a 640x480 screen is 1/8" on a (2560|3400)x1920

What DPI are you using ?



Good point.  I have 1024x768 on a CRT 15 ½" viewable.

In Thunderbird, the scrollbar won't get any smaller than about 3 lines text in the box in the upper right, the one that shows subject, sender, date and such of several messages. Currently, I have that window sized to show just short of 5 lines. The size of that scrollbar barely leaves any room at all above or below the ½" bar which seems to suggest that there is only one line above or below what is showing. In reality, there are *far* more. Trying to navigate in that by dragging the scrollbar is totally useless. Moving just one pixel moves virtually from one end of the list to the other.

Regardless of the resolution, I would like the minimum size to be about ⅛" or so. If that is something that I have to set myself, I'm OK with that. I just need someone to tell me how.

In previous versions of FC, I'm fairly certain that this insanely large minimum size was not the case.

I have noticed, with each move "up" in fedora versions, features (that I have come to like) disappear or become insanely restricted. The advancements are great, but how long will the best details stick around before they are flushed! There were details in the screensaver (among many, many other things) that I liked. It has been long enough now that I don't even remember what they were. Perhaps bugzilla feature enhancement requests is the place to complain about features that have disappeared.

Mozilla mail had a window expansion button/bar for the subject area which you could either drag (to resize) or click on (to toggle maximize). Thunderbird doesn't have that (the click to maximize).



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