I wasn't saying that Eddie was a great manager. He is clearly too nice a bloke 
to be a number one, but he is a good youth coach. The young players he brought 
on should have been the core of the side for years to come, but Bremner failed 
to get the best out of them. 
   
  You can't make out that it was a good decision to release Irwin, when he went 
on to be a key member of the Man U side of the 1990s. I found it incredibly 
frustrating to see how well Irwin and other former Leeds youth players were 
doing at other clubs. 
   
  Ian Snodin wasn't signed by Bremner. He came to Leeds in the summer of 1985, 
a couple of months before Eddie was sacked. Batty made his first team debut 
under Bremner, but he was already at the club as a youth player when Bremner 
arrived.
   
  Tim W.
   
  

Phill Shields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
      .hmmessage P  {  margin:0px;  padding:0px  }  body.hmmessage  {  
FONT-SIZE: 10pt;  FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma  }    Now if you are talking about poor 
managers then step up Eddie Gray. Great bloke, fantastic player but please 
don't tell me he was a great manager. He was manager for the only game I have 
left early, when Chester (then 92nd in league) beat us in the league cup at 
home. He also played Neil Aspen at centre-forward at one point which defies 
belief even now. He never did anything as a manager at any club so don't say he 
was better than the Wee man.
 
Would you put Batty & Snodin (ian) in our worst 11. I don't think so, Billy 
recruited both and they both worshipped him. The players you mention may have 
had promise but at Leeds couldnt fight their way out of a paper bag. With the 
regime in charge I hardly think it fair to blame Billy because they were sold 
for peanuts. As I have said he got no support in his transfer dealings.  

Billy deserves more recognition for what he did as a manager at Leeds and he 
never bleated about the shoddy way he was treated.


  
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> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:21:54 +0000
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [LU] Stan
> 
> Sorry, but Billy was an awful judge of a player. He inherited a promising 
> young side from Eddie, but got rid of most of them for peanuts. Irwin, 
> Sellars and Scales were all given away for less than £100,000, as was 
> Linighan (who wasn't that good but who was later sold from Norwich to Arsenal 
> for £1 Million).
> 
> And who did he buy for similar amounts of money? The likes of Harle, who was 
> one of the worst players I've ever seen in a Leeds shirt. All the 'Worst ever 
> Leeds XIs' I've seen posted on various forums have had more than their fair 
> share of Bremner signings.
> 
> Tim W.
> (Sticking up for the other Tim on this one).
> 
> 
> Phill Shields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tim said:- 
> 
> "Wee billy was not a good manager".
> 
> Bit harsh Tim. Billy was expected to manage Leeds on a shoe-string and with 
> some young kids and a number of journey men. He was minutes away from getting 
> us promoted through the play-offs and reach the FA Cup Final in the same 
> season.
> 
> Wilko only came because the Board promised to back him and who is to argue 
> that Billy would not have got us promoted if he had been given the same 
> resources.
> 
> Soz for being pedantic but I can't let anything negative go if its about the 
> Wee Man.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Phill
> MOT
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
  
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