Err which team was Snodin playing for when we signed him? I think you will find 
he was playing for King Billy.
 
Did you actually watch that Eddie Gray side? I never rated Irwin when he played 
for us and neither did Manure or they would have signed him before we let him 
go to Oldham. So Eddie Gray can spot talent but Billy couldnt?
 
I don't think so.


Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 13:36:35 +0000From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RE: [LU] StanTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
I wasn't saying that Eddie was a great manager. He is clearly too nice a bloke 
to be a number one, but he is a good youth coach. The young players he brought 
on should have been the core of the side for years to come, but Bremner failed 
to get the best out of them. 
 
You can't make out that it was a good decision to release Irwin, when he went 
on to be a key member of the Man U side of the 1990s. I found it incredibly 
frustrating to see how well Irwin and other former Leeds youth players were 
doing at other clubs. 
 
Ian Snodin wasn't signed by Bremner. He came to Leeds in the summer of 1985, a 
couple of months before Eddie was sacked. Batty made his first team debut under 
Bremner, but he was already at the club as a youth player when Bremner arrived.
 
Tim W.
 
Phill Shields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Now if you are talking about poor managers then step up Eddie Gray. Great 
bloke, fantastic player but please don't tell me he was a great manager. He was 
manager for the only game I have left early, when Chester (then 92nd in league) 
beat us in the league cup at home. He also played Neil Aspen at centre-forward 
at one point which defies belief even now. He never did anything as a manager 
at any club so don't say he was better than the Wee man. Would you put Batty & 
Snodin (ian) in our worst 11. I don't think so, Billy recruited both and they 
both worshipped him. The players you mention may have had promise but at Leeds 
couldnt fight their way out of a paper bag. With the regime in charge I hardly 
think it fair to blame Billy because they were sold for peanuts. As I have said 
he got no support in his transfer dealings.  Billy deserves more recognition 
for what he did as a manager at Leeds and he never bleated about the shoddy way 
he was treated.

> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:21:54 +0000> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
> [email protected]> Subject: Re: [LU] Stan> > Sorry, but Billy was 
> an awful judge of a player. He inherited a promising young side from Eddie, 
> but got rid of most of them for peanuts. Irwin, Sellars and Scales were all 
> given away for less than £100,000, as was Linighan (who wasn't that good but 
> who was later sold from Norwich to Arsenal for £1 Million).> > And who did he 
> buy for similar amounts of money? The likes of Harle, who was one of the 
> worst players I've ever seen in a Leeds shirt. All the 'Worst ever Leeds XIs' 
> I've seen posted on various forums have had more than their fair share of 
> Bremner signings.> > Tim W.> (Sticking up for the other Tim on this one).> > 
> > Phill Shields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Tim said:- > > "Wee billy was not 
> a good manager".> > Bit harsh Tim. Billy was expected to manage Leeds on a 
> shoe-string and with some young kids and a number of journey men. He was 
> minutes away from getting us promoted through the play-offs and reach the FA 
> Cup Final in the same season.> > Wilko only came because the Board promised 
> to back him and who is to argue that Billy would not have got us promoted if 
> he had been given the same resources.> > Soz for being pedantic but I can't 
> let anything negative go if its about the Wee Man.> > Regards> > Phill> MOT> 
> > > > > > > 

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