Err which team was Snodin playing for when we signed him? I think you will find he was playing for King Billy. Did you actually watch that Eddie Gray side? I never rated Irwin when he played for us and neither did Manure or they would have signed him before we let him go to Oldham. So Eddie Gray can spot talent but Billy couldnt? I don't think so.
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 13:36:35 +0000From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RE: [LU] StanTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] I wasn't saying that Eddie was a great manager. He is clearly too nice a bloke to be a number one, but he is a good youth coach. The young players he brought on should have been the core of the side for years to come, but Bremner failed to get the best out of them. You can't make out that it was a good decision to release Irwin, when he went on to be a key member of the Man U side of the 1990s. I found it incredibly frustrating to see how well Irwin and other former Leeds youth players were doing at other clubs. Ian Snodin wasn't signed by Bremner. He came to Leeds in the summer of 1985, a couple of months before Eddie was sacked. Batty made his first team debut under Bremner, but he was already at the club as a youth player when Bremner arrived. Tim W. Phill Shields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Now if you are talking about poor managers then step up Eddie Gray. Great bloke, fantastic player but please don't tell me he was a great manager. He was manager for the only game I have left early, when Chester (then 92nd in league) beat us in the league cup at home. He also played Neil Aspen at centre-forward at one point which defies belief even now. He never did anything as a manager at any club so don't say he was better than the Wee man. Would you put Batty & Snodin (ian) in our worst 11. I don't think so, Billy recruited both and they both worshipped him. The players you mention may have had promise but at Leeds couldnt fight their way out of a paper bag. With the regime in charge I hardly think it fair to blame Billy because they were sold for peanuts. As I have said he got no support in his transfer dealings. Billy deserves more recognition for what he did as a manager at Leeds and he never bleated about the shoddy way he was treated. > Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:21:54 +0000> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: > [email protected]> Subject: Re: [LU] Stan> > Sorry, but Billy was > an awful judge of a player. He inherited a promising young side from Eddie, > but got rid of most of them for peanuts. Irwin, Sellars and Scales were all > given away for less than £100,000, as was Linighan (who wasn't that good but > who was later sold from Norwich to Arsenal for £1 Million).> > And who did he > buy for similar amounts of money? The likes of Harle, who was one of the > worst players I've ever seen in a Leeds shirt. All the 'Worst ever Leeds XIs' > I've seen posted on various forums have had more than their fair share of > Bremner signings.> > Tim W.> (Sticking up for the other Tim on this one).> > > > Phill Shields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Tim said:- > > "Wee billy was not > a good manager".> > Bit harsh Tim. Billy was expected to manage Leeds on a > shoe-string and with some young kids and a number of journey men. He was > minutes away from getting us promoted through the play-offs and reach the FA > Cup Final in the same season.> > Wilko only came because the Board promised > to back him and who is to argue that Billy would not have got us promoted if > he had been given the same resources.> > Soz for being pedantic but I can't > let anything negative go if its about the Wee Man.> > Regards> > Phill> MOT> > > > > > > > Everything in one place. All new Windows Live! Sent from Yahoo! - a smarter inbox. _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile, text MSN to 63463! http://mobile.uk.msn.com/pc/mail.aspx _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list [email protected] http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist DELETE THE FOOTERS WHEN REPLYING YOU LAZY SODS!!!! DELETE THE FOOTERS WHEN REPLYING YOU LAZY SODS!!!!

