Which list did you take it off of? ;-) LOL On 10/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sara, > > I've taken this off list. > > I know you aren't being argumentative and that it is a serious subject > that needs dealing with. > > I really have no idea what such charts and reports should be called, I > only know that they should not be called ancestror/descendant charts > and reports. > Actually, "Family and Social Relationships of John Q." isn't such a bad > idea and better than most I have heard. > > I've campaigned for some years that both genealogists and family > historians need to recognize that while there are certain aspects of > each field that seemingly overlap each needs to acknowledge that they > are indeed serparate fields and need to be treated as such; each with > its own terminology, methodology, etc. > > I hope this clarifies what I'm trying to convey. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sara Binkley Tarpley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Sent: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 7:18 pm > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Is Anybody There?... same sex relationships > > > > So what would you suggest that I call reports and charts that show my > adopted child? My child was abandoned shortly after birth by persons > unknown. He is my child through love and law. What would it say to > him, what would it do to him emotionally if I omit him from my family > in charts and reports? The law treats him as my descendant. > > I am not trying to be argumentative here. This is a subject that > comes up on this and other lists not infrequently. It is a serious > subject. Loving adoptive parents refuse to hurt their children by not > showing them as such. Some genealogists assert that said adoptive > parents are being deceptive by so showing them on charts. So, since > it is unlikely that adoptive parents will change their practices, what > should we call our charts? What about a chart that has 99.9% people > related by blood, and one person who is adopted? Are you seriously > suggesting that instead of calling a chart "Descendants of John Q. > Ancestor" I call it "Social Relationships of John Q. Ancestor"? Will > I be deceptive if I call it "Family Relationships of John Q. > Ancestor?" Of course, those I send such a report to won't know what > in blazes I am talking about. > > Sara > > > On 10/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sara, > > > > Note I said nothing about entering non blood-related people into your > > software, be it spouses, adoptees, or whatever. It is how you treat > > them after they are entered that makes the difference between a > > genealogist and a family historian. > > > > My point is that non blood-related individuals should not be shown as > > ancestors and/or descendants in ancestor/descendat charts or reports > as > > doing so makes such reports something other than what they are named. > > If you call it social relationships or whatever is fine. > > > > As to how you describe your research depends on how you treat it. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sara Binkley Tarpley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > > Sent: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 5:38 pm > > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Is Anybody There?... same sex relationships > > > > > > > > Does that mean that if a married couple has no children, the spouse > > should be omitted from charts and reports [unless the spouse is a > > cousin]? > > > > I guess I am proudly not a genealogist then because there is no way > > that I would omit my adopted child from my software [noting > > appropriately that he is adopted]. Unfortunately, to the best of my > > knowledge, there is no software just for family history. I thought > > that Legacy and other popular software was adaptable for both > > genealogy and family history. > > > > So, if I am not a genealogist, then how do I describe the bulk of my > > research, which does deal with bloodlines [as far as we know them and > > subject to the errors that we are all unaware of]? > > > > Sara > > > > On 10/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > If you believe that non blood-related individuals should be shown in > > > ancestor and/or descendant charts and/or reports then you are not a > > > genealogist-period. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: marilyn E B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > > > Sent: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 3:50 pm > > > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Is Anybody There?... same sex relationships > > > > > > > > > > > > Why can you not do both? > > > > > > Marilyn > > > > > > On 10/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Mike, > > > > > > > > Then I am a fourth group. > > > > > > > > I do NOT believe same-sex relationships are an abomination but DO > > > > believe that they should not be shown in a genealogical > > presentation ( > > > > as opposed to a family History presentation). > > > > > > > > There is nothing wrong with doing family history, as long as you > > > > realize that that is what you are doing and not deceiving yourself > > > into > > > > believing you are doing genealogy. > > > > > > > > The reverse is also true. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > > Archived messages: > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > > > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and > > > industry-leading spam and email virus protection. > > > > > > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > > Archived messages: > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > > > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > Archived messages: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and > > industry-leading spam and email virus protection. > > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > Archived messages: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and > industry-leading spam and email virus protection. > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > >
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