The cost of hard-drives has come down considerably. A friend bought one just the other day, 250 GB's for $130 at Costco. They only needed about 10 GB and 250 was the smallest they found there. I don't know why you'd have to leave your computer running all night to do backups. It just doesn't take that long. You can do it multiple times a day in minutes. You can also use one of the online backup services and have the added benefit of your files being in a different location should something drastic happen.

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Hope Bagot Bees wrote:
Ron

Well yes, but I take a large number of photos which are a fiddle to backup on to CDs and my son's advice (he works in computers) is that if I get a second external hard drive I can copy everything on to it and back all up, say weekly. I know that when my old hard drive died suddenly a couple of years ago, it cost a lot of money and time to get someone to retrieve all they could from the old, damaged drive and then I spent days getting everything new sorted out to my satisfaction. Some things were lost forever too. Also the size of an external hard drive is much bigger than my computer and my husband's laptop together so we can both use it for backups.

So the decision is just about made and I plan to run a scan and then a backup weekly with the computer left on overnight to do both jobs.

Elizabeth

ronald ferguson wrote:
Elizabeth,

There's no need to buy an external hard drive just for storing back-ups, although it would be very useful for other things as well. I just copy my back-up to a Flash Drive. It works fine.



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Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:31:06 +0000
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] re: Sudden Shutdown


Thanks for the tips both to you and Cathy.

I think I should re-schedule the scan to occur one night a week and then
leave it switched on - it reverts to stand-by pretty quickly anyway. I
do find sometimes that it gets 'tired' as it were and I then have to
switch off and reboot in any case. And, no, I don't turn it off several
times a day, once it is on, it's on till bedtime.

Now to buy an external spare hard disk as I think I need that to backup
properly, as Cathy suggested.

Elizabeth

ronald ferguson wrote:
I'm afraid it's not very environmentally friendly, but yes, my PC is on 24/7. I do, however, have to switch it off for a brief period every 3 or 4 days as it seems to accumulate background rubbish which I need to get rid off.

Incidentally, although it would seem you don't do it, it is not a good idea to switch it on and off several times a day but better to leave it running.


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Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 12:35:49 +0000
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] re: Sudden Shutdown

I see you run your virus scanner overnight - presumably that means you
have to leave the power on? I have been in the habit of switching off
at the wall when we go to bed.

I think I only have Legacy 6 installed which is where the shortcut
points to but I do see I should check that - thanks.

ronald ferguson wrote:

Elizabeth,

I run my virus scanner overnight since I am rather low on memory for all the applications I tend to have running during the day, and to do the scan at the same time really slows down my computer. In the worst instance it may also cause crashing if the memory runs out. It could be that you lost your files due to shortage of memory, although this is speculation on my part.

Unless you have a specific reason for running two versions of Legacy it is far better to only have one installed, partly for memory considerations but also to avoid confusion as to which one you are actually running and which back-ups are which - I know that they will be in different directories but it is still easily done.

I am sure Cathy does mean backing up the .usr files to CD, flash drive or whatever other means of back-up you may use. I also do the same btw.


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Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 10:03:44 +0000
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] re: Sudden Shutdown

Thanks - I think that McAfee deleted my .usr files as I could find .usr
files in C:\Legacy and C:\Program Files\Legacy too. I tried using
older ones, but it had lost data so I then opened Legacy with the 2006 .usr files restored and then opened my most recent backup and now it all
looks fine. McAfee 'says' it only deleted cookies and the missing
.usr files were not in quarantine.

However, as I have copies of Legacy (Deluxe) in both C:\Legacy and in
C:\Program Files\Legacy, what is the best way of dealing with that,
please? Should I move all of one set to the other place, or delete one
set? I am using Windows XP not Vista. I get regular updates from
Legacy and am using Version 6.0.0.179 - they presumably all go in the
same place.

Your comment about backing up the .usr files, do you mean storing them on the CD when I backup Legacy and the Multimedia files? I have never
done that.

Elizabeth

Cathy wrote:


Hi Elizabeth,

This doesn't normally happen with any form of scan on a computer but
every now and again one of the AntiMalware softwares get false
positives and it sounds like whatever was scanning took exception to
something in the Legacy files.

Closing Legacy by right clicking on it when it's minimised to the Task
Bar is no problem. I do it all the time.

It sounds like you've lost all your .usr files and they've all
reverted to the defaults.

The fonts etc that you are referring to aren't held within the .fdb file. That only has your data so going to a backup of your Family File
won't return the fonts etc.
You have to re choose your options in Options> Customise and
everywhere else - unless you can see that whatever was scanning has
quarantined the files somewhere and you can release them.

Another possibility is that you've got two installations of Legacy on
your computer and you've opened a different one. If you installed
Legacy into Program Files, take a look to see whether you also have a C:\Legacy folder. That's the default location but many of us install
to Program Files - though I understand things are different with
Vista. If you are using Vista and you installed to the Program Files folder, then I think the .usr files etc get put in some virtual store or something? Sorry. I don't have Vista but know that programs aren't allowed to write to the Program folders after installation. There's information on the Legacy web pages on how to properly install Legacy
to run under Vista.

Are you a Deluxe user? Have you also lost access to the Deluxe
features? If so, you'll need to re-enter your Customer Number as well.

For another occasion: I include the .usr files in my regular computer
backup so that I can restore them if/when necessary.

Cheers,
Cathy

At 07:55 AM 16/02/2008, you wrote:


Earlier today when my computer was doing a regular scan Legacy
suddenly stopped responding and shut down. I wasn't using the
program at the time and had tried to close it by right-clicking the
icon on the bar at the bottom of my computer screen. I re-started
the computer and tried to open Legacy again. It asked me which file to open and found the Master.fdb file that I use but when it opened, all the fonts had changed to the default and other minor things were different. I then closed that and opened up one of my backup copies
but the file still looks different.

I am normally elsewhere on a Friday morning which is why the routine scan takes place then but today I was at my computer. Should I have
stopped the scan working while I was using the computer?

Can anyone explain why this happened and should I do anything to stop
it happening again?
Elizabeth

I forgot to add that when I open Legacy since it shut down, I get the Welcome to Legacy 6 tips window and then the offer to Order a Legacy Manual. My information appears to be fine but why has this happened,
please?

Elizabeth


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