On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 05:30:16 -0700, Roy J. Tellason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sunday 13 April 2008 04:35, Wraith wrote: >> Neo Cons tend to believe that other people are evil, and thus must be >> watched by the States enforcers. Neo Libs tend to believe that other >> people >> are stupid, and thus must be "protected" by the States enforcers. >> Combine >> the two, and one has a rather familiar warfare/welfare state. I was >> once a >> minarchist, until I realized the folly of the position. > > Nice summary, there... Very true. This country is going through the same crap that the Chinese went through about four thousand years ago. You had two groups of Mandarins, the Legalists tand the Confuscians. The Confuscians believed that given a chance, that man would behave ethically and would "turn towards Heaven"-- that he was perfectable. The other group, the Legalists, believed that man was inherently evil and had to be forcably restrained by an enlightened class for the good of everybody. The first Chinese Emperor, who was a butcher of the worst sort, went along with the Legalists, and his chief advisor, Mo Shu, was the architect of the first police state. And it was one of the ugliest in history. He had what was called "The System of Family Espionage" where family members were responsible for informing on each other. That's the reason that a Chinese father never explains anything to his kids as a general rule and tends to be pretty closemouthed. Your kids can't get you killed if you don't say anything. The Ch'ien Emperor was also responsible for killing almost all of the Confuscian scholars and burning almost all of the books by this sage. And he built the Great Wall, which is sometimes called "The World's Longest Graveyard" because a lot of the work was done by political prisoners and when they died while working on the wall, their bones were added to the mortar. You can go along sections of it and see the bones sticking out. Our problem is that our politicans are, regardless of label, Legalists. They all think that we're too evil and too stupid to know what's good for us, and increasingly they're getting away from the Agency Theory which holds that they are our agents and must accept realtime input from us and more towards the Trusteeship Theory, wherein they claim that we've elected a trustee and our only input is at elections when we can either ratify their actions or not by voting for or against them. And in some places that shift is incendiary, which is how Harry Reid almost lost his Senate seat with a contested 473 vote margin. During the period when the 94 Omnibus Crime Bill with the Brady Bill and the Feinstein-Schumer Assault Weapon Ban passed, Reid made it clear that he didn't give a damn what any of us thought. And he wasn't alone, because that's the prevailing belief on the Hill. Unfortunately it looks like the damned Legalists are winning in this country and whenever those monsters win anywhere, secret police, secret prison systems and concentration camps soon follows because the core of Legalist Government in the end, comes down to institutionalised State Terrorism, perpetrated against the civil population. > -- "Implications leading to ramifications leading to shenanigans." Admiral Elmo Zumwalt, USN