A problem that I see with http://delvingbitcoin.org/ is what happens 10 years from now?
I am more in favour of keeping the ML (and I can host it because I have a couple of projects that need an ML too) because 10 years from now we are sure that the mail is still alive. In addition, I was going to try https://lists.sr.ht as a list, maybe we can use it as a backup list? like an archive-ln-list or something? However, I am not a blocker for people who want to use http://delvingbitcoin.org/ it is accessible enough also for screen readers Vincent. On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 9:35 PM Matt Corallo <lf-li...@mattcorallo.com> wrote: > > Ah, there was also some concern over archiving of a discourse, which we'd > hoped was trivial through > "mailing list mode", but apparently that may not be the case. Further > thoughts on that are welcome. > > Matt > > On 12/4/23 12:32 PM, Matt Corallo wrote: > > On the call the vote was split between "host our own ML, or maybe use > > groups.io" and "some discourse > > instance, probably delvingbitcoin.org", with a weak majority for the second. > > > > With that in mind, we're gonna give delvingbitcoin.org a try, at least for > > two weeks, and then we > > can come back to this and discuss! > > > > Some folks indicated they'd like to interact with it via the supposed > > "mailing list mode", but sadly > > AJ indicated it may not be super reliable (and seems to be disabled on > > delvingbitcoin.org). I've > > asked AJ to enable it so people can maybe try it out but we'll see if it > > works. Sadly if you don't > > enable this mode it appears you cannot post via email. > > > > See-also discussion of using a category vs tags at > > https://delvingbitcoin.org/t/can-we-get-a-lightning-protocol-design-category-wg/242/3 > > > > Because this is new, we'll have another discussion in two weeks about if > > people are happy with this > > as a solution/if we should host our own discourse (not sure why)/if we > > should go back to the mailing > > list plan. Those who have a view can also respond to this email and I'll > > raise it in the meeting. > > > > Matt > > > > On 11/26/23 8:51 AM, Matt Corallo wrote: > >> During the last meeting it came up that the mailing list here will likely > >> shut down somewhere > >> around the end of the year. We listed basically the following options for > >> future discussion forums: > >> > >> * google groups as a mailing list hoster. One question was whether its > >> friendly to subscribing > >> without a gmail account, which may be limiting to some. > >> * github discussions on the lightning org. One question is whether the > >> moderation tools here are > >> sufficient. > >> * Someone (probably me) host a mailman instance and we use another mailing > >> list. I dug into this a > >> bit and am happy to do this, on the one condition that the ML remains > >> fully moderated, though this > >> doens't seem like a substantial burden today. One question is if > >> spam-foldering will be an issue, > >> but with full moderation I'm pretty confident this will be tolerable, at > >> least for those with > >> email hosted anywhere but Microsoft lol. > >> * A discourse instance (either we host one or we use delvingbitcoin, which > >> AJ hosts and has > >> previously offered to set up a lightning section on). > >> > >> There was some loose discussion, but I'm not sure there's going to be a > >> clear conclusion. Thus, I > >> think we should simply vote at the next meeting after a time-boxed minute > >> or two discussion. If > >> anyone has any thoughts or would like to have their voice heard, they can > >> join the meeting in a > >> week and a day or can respond here and I'll do my best to repeat the views > >> expressed on the call. > >> > >> Matt > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Lightning-dev mailing list > >> Lightning-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > >> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/lightning-dev > > _______________________________________________ > > Lightning-dev mailing list > > Lightning-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/lightning-dev > _______________________________________________ > Lightning-dev mailing list > Lightning-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/lightning-dev _______________________________________________ Lightning-dev mailing list Lightning-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/lightning-dev
