thank you Cheryl for your honesty!  agree.  Jean Palmer

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From: cob via Lincoln <lincoln@lincolntalk.org>
To: samat...@gmail.com; bmwkbi...@gmail.com
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Sent: Wed, Jul 14, 2021 8:18 pm
Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive

 I grew up in Lincoln, and still have a property there.. I'm stunned and not,  
by the the comments on this thread, how privilege you are, questioning a 
cucumber to chicken prices, organic or not. My dad invested and had chickens on 
Codman farm,  4 decades ago. He did not have the stomach to kill chickens, so 
he opted out.I volunteer for a non-profit to bring food to families that have 
no choices, and yet we struggle to bring them fresh foods from farms to 
families,so they can eat as healthy as the Lincolnites.. No need to respond, 
just trying to keep Lincoln less snotty, then these emails appear. Might be too 
late. Cheryl In a message dated 7/14/2021 5:32:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
samat...@gmail.com writes: 
If on checks the labels and notes who is the producer, and then looks at 
websites, it is usually not hard to figure out. A casual Google search can show 
you images of organic “factory” farms.Here is an article touting the qualities 
of just such a farm.Judge for yourself.And as for the difference in cost of a 
chicken raised in one of these facilities and roaming around the Codman North 
fields…well, a picture says a thousand 
words:https://www.agdaily.com/insights/farm-babe-take-look-inside-organic-factory-farm/
  Here a link to one of the many organizations that rates organic producers and 
their products.You mights have to toggle around on the website to learn how 
they actually grade, but the info is there.https://www.cornucopia.org We are 
lucky to have the choices we do, and we are lucky to have had town folks who, 
decades ago, saw the value in preserving our agricultural heritage and esp, and 
acted through the town’s purchase and preservation of Codman Community Farm. 
Best,Sara 


On Jul 14, 2021, at 3:42 PM, V Saleme <bmwkbi...@gmail.com> wrote:
OK, seeking specificity to your’ assurances such that I can make an informed 
decision on where I purchase, cheers and thank you!—-
On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 3:36 PM Sasha Golden <sashagol...@gmail.com> wrote:
I can assure you that these are factory-farmed. You want to support an industry 
that barely allows chickens to move before they die so you can save a couple of 
bucks? Go ahead.
 On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 1:01 PM AWH <awhule...@gmail.com> wrote:
For some cost comparisons, here are some prices for organic boneless  chicken 
breasts:Whole Foods 365 -Tray $7.99Value pack $6.99Lincoln Donelans Bell and 
Evans -Tray $12.99 What are the actual prices for Codman chicken?

On Jul 14, 2021, at 9:24 AM, Joan Kimball <selene...@gmail.com> wrote:



Yes, but Whole Foods can price lower because of quantity. You can see it in 
food and flower prices.  They are a national chain.  Codman and local farmers 
have  locally grown food.  Farm staff  need to be paid fairly for this labor 
intensive food. And so we can choose, as Sara says. 

On Wed, Jul 14, 2021, 9:16 AM Anne Warner <warneran...@gmail.com> wrote:
Stepping back from the commentary for a moment:  my sister was up visiting me 
in Lincoln recently, and I took her by Codman Farms.  She looked at the 
pricing, and was actually pretty shocked.  The prices were so much higher than 
even the most expensive of the local markets (Whole Foods) for identical foods, 
including organic items.  Her comment was "I guess I shouldn't be surprised. 
This is Lincoln, after all."  Really gave me pause....
On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 9:10 AM Margaret Olson <s...@margaretolson.com> wrote:
Out of curiosity, I looked at images of chicken for sale at butcher shops in 
the early 40s (pre-factory farmed chicken). Then I compared 1940 prices to 
current prices...and discovered that Codman Farm chicken is almost exactly the 
same price as chicken was in the 1940s.  Chicken was once Sunday dinner food. 
It was, like Codman's chicken, flavorful and delicious. I looked and looked for 
pasture raised chicken and used to buy it from Whole Foods when they 
occasionally had it. I am SOOO happy that Codman has real chicken almost all 
the time. I strongly urge you all to try it, and just stop buying factory 
chicken. If you want a bland protein on which to impart other flavors use tofu. 
It is expensive - a problem we solved by eating much less meat. Better for our 
health, better for the environment, and the chickens lead a natural chicken 
life. If you care at all about the treatment of animals that alone is a reason 
to avoid anything except pasture raised chicken. "Organic" chicken is factory 
chicken that has been fed organic feed. One of the Michael Pollan books 
(apologies, I forget which one) described an "organic" chicken farm. It wasn't 
pretty - basically treating the building  like a clean room.
On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 8:44 AM Lincoln Historical Society 
<lincolnmahistoricalsoci...@gmail.com> wrote:
Given all Adam has described, yes indeed!

You have many choices - meat and chicken produced at large, factory farms, will 
of course be cheaper.
Any meat/chicken sold through chain stores will be cheaper.
You have that choice -it is locally available at Donelans, Market Basket, 
Costco.
It is your choice.

You get what you pay for.

Sara

> On Jul 13, 2021, at 8:58 AM, garrick niemiec <gniem...@illinoisalumni.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> Adam
> 
> What about the frozen chicken and beef...reasonable?
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