Completely agree. Anne Warner

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> On Jul 14, 2021, at 8:22 PM, kliattaudi--- via Lincoln 
> <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> thank you Cheryl for your honesty!  agree.  
> Jean Palmer
> 
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> From: cob via Lincoln <lincoln@lincolntalk.org>
> To: samat...@gmail.com; bmwkbi...@gmail.com
> Cc: lincoln@lincolntalk.org
> Sent: Wed, Jul 14, 2021 8:18 pm
> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive
> 
>  
> I grew up in Lincoln, and still have a property there.. I'm stunned and not,  
> by the the comments on this thread, how privilege you are, questioning a 
> cucumber to chicken prices, organic or not. My dad invested and had chickens 
> on Codman farm,  4 decades ago. He did not have the stomach to kill chickens, 
> so he opted out.
> I volunteer for a non-profit to bring food to families that have no choices, 
> and yet we struggle to bring them fresh foods from farms to families,so they 
> can eat as healthy as the Lincolnites.. 
> No need to respond, just trying to keep Lincoln less snotty, then these 
> emails appear. Might be too late.
>  
> Cheryl 
> In a message dated 7/14/2021 5:32:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
> samat...@gmail.com writes:
>  
> If on checks the labels and notes who is the producer, and then looks at 
> websites, it is usually not hard to figure out.
>  
> A casual Google search can show you images of organic “factory” farms.
> Here is an article touting the qualities of just such a farm.
> Judge for yourself.
> And as for the difference in cost of a chicken raised in one of these 
> facilities and roaming around the Codman North fields…well, a picture says a 
> thousand words:
> https://www.agdaily.com/insights/farm-babe-take-look-inside-organic-factory-farm/
>  
>  
> Here a link to one of the many organizations that rates organic producers and 
> their products.
> You mights have to toggle around on the website to learn how they actually 
> grade, but the info is there.
> https://www.cornucopia.org
>  
> We are lucky to have the choices we do, and we are lucky to have had town 
> folks who, decades ago, saw the value in preserving our agricultural heritage 
> and esp, and acted through the town’s purchase and preservation of Codman 
> Community Farm.
>  
> Best,
> Sara
>  
> 
> 
> On Jul 14, 2021, at 3:42 PM, V Saleme <bmwkbi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> OK, seeking specificity to your’ assurances such that I can make an informed 
> decision on where I purchase, cheers and thank you!
> —-
> 
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 3:36 PM Sasha Golden <sashagol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I can assure you that these are factory-farmed. You want to support an 
> industry that barely allows chickens to move before they die so you can save 
> a couple of bucks? Go ahead.
> 
>  
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 1:01 PM AWH <awhule...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For some cost comparisons, here are some prices for organic boneless  chicken 
> breasts:
> Whole Foods 365 -
> Tray $7.99
> Value pack $6.99
> Lincoln Donelans Bell and Evans -
> Tray $12.99
>  
> What are the actual prices for Codman chicken?
> 
> On Jul 14, 2021, at 9:24 AM, Joan Kimball <selene...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, but Whole Foods can price lower because of quantity. You can see it in 
> food and flower prices.  They are a national chain.  Codman and local farmers 
> have  locally grown food.  Farm staff  need to be paid fairly for this labor 
> intensive food. And so we can choose, as Sara says.
>  
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021, 9:16 AM Anne Warner <warneran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Stepping back from the commentary for a moment:  my sister was up visiting me 
> in Lincoln recently, and I took her by Codman Farms.  She looked at the 
> pricing, and was actually pretty shocked.  The prices were so much higher 
> than even the most expensive of the local markets (Whole Foods) for identical 
> foods, including organic items.  Her comment was "I guess I shouldn't be 
> surprised. This is Lincoln, after all."  Really gave me pause....
> 
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 9:10 AM Margaret Olson <s...@margaretolson.com> wrote:
> Out of curiosity, I looked at images of chicken for sale at butcher shops in 
> the early 40s (pre-factory farmed chicken). Then I compared 1940 prices to 
> current prices...and discovered that Codman Farm chicken is almost exactly 
> the same price as chicken was in the 1940s. 
>  
> Chicken was once Sunday dinner food. It was, like Codman's chicken, flavorful 
> and delicious. I looked and looked for pasture raised chicken and used to buy 
> it from Whole Foods when they occasionally had it. I am SOOO happy that 
> Codman has real chicken almost all the time. I strongly urge you all to try 
> it, and just stop buying factory chicken. If you want a bland protein on 
> which to impart other flavors use tofu. It is expensive - a problem we solved 
> by eating much less meat. Better for our health, better for the environment, 
> and the chickens lead a natural chicken life. If you care at all about the 
> treatment of animals that alone is a reason to avoid anything except pasture 
> raised chicken.
>  
> "Organic" chicken is factory chicken that has been fed organic feed. One of 
> the Michael Pollan books (apologies, I forget which one) described an 
> "organic" chicken farm. It wasn't pretty - basically treating the building  
> like a clean room.
> 
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 8:44 AM Lincoln Historical Society 
> <lincolnmahistoricalsoci...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Given all Adam has described, yes indeed!
> 
> You have many choices - meat and chicken produced at large, factory farms, 
> will of course be cheaper.
> Any meat/chicken sold through chain stores will be cheaper.
> You have that choice -it is locally available at Donelans, Market Basket, 
> Costco.
> It is your choice.
> 
> You get what you pay for.
> 
> Sara
> 
> > On Jul 13, 2021, at 8:58 AM, garrick niemiec <gniem...@illinoisalumni.org> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Adam
> > 
> > What about the frozen chicken and beef...reasonable?
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