Can someone on federal living assistance programs afford to purchase anything 
there?

Stephen Sakowich
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> On Jul 14, 2021, at 8:29 PM, Anne Warner <warneran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Completely agree. Anne Warner
> 
> - Sent from iPhone. Typed by thumb. Excuse misspellings! 
> 
>>> On Jul 14, 2021, at 8:22 PM, kliattaudi--- via Lincoln 
>>> <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> thank you Cheryl for your honesty!  agree.  
>> Jean Palmer
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cob via Lincoln <lincoln@lincolntalk.org>
>> To: samat...@gmail.com; bmwkbi...@gmail.com
>> Cc: lincoln@lincolntalk.org
>> Sent: Wed, Jul 14, 2021 8:18 pm
>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive
>> 
>>  
>> I grew up in Lincoln, and still have a property there.. I'm stunned and not, 
>>  by the the comments on this thread, how privilege you are, questioning a 
>> cucumber to chicken prices, organic or not. My dad invested and had chickens 
>> on Codman farm,  4 decades ago. He did not have the stomach to kill 
>> chickens, so he opted out.
>> I volunteer for a non-profit to bring food to families that have no choices, 
>> and yet we struggle to bring them fresh foods from farms to families,so they 
>> can eat as healthy as the Lincolnites.. 
>> No need to respond, just trying to keep Lincoln less snotty, then these 
>> emails appear. Might be too late.
>>  
>> Cheryl 
>> In a message dated 7/14/2021 5:32:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
>> samat...@gmail.com writes:
>>  
>> If on checks the labels and notes who is the producer, and then looks at 
>> websites, it is usually not hard to figure out.
>>  
>> A casual Google search can show you images of organic “factory” farms.
>> Here is an article touting the qualities of just such a farm.
>> Judge for yourself.
>> And as for the difference in cost of a chicken raised in one of these 
>> facilities and roaming around the Codman North fields…well, a picture says a 
>> thousand words:
>> https://www.agdaily.com/insights/farm-babe-take-look-inside-organic-factory-farm/
>>  
>>  
>> Here a link to one of the many organizations that rates organic producers 
>> and their products.
>> You mights have to toggle around on the website to learn how they actually 
>> grade, but the info is there.
>> https://www.cornucopia.org
>>  
>> We are lucky to have the choices we do, and we are lucky to have had town 
>> folks who, decades ago, saw the value in preserving our agricultural 
>> heritage and esp, and acted through the town’s purchase and preservation of 
>> Codman Community Farm.
>>  
>> Best,
>> Sara
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 14, 2021, at 3:42 PM, V Saleme <bmwkbi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> OK, seeking specificity to your’ assurances such that I can make an informed 
>> decision on where I purchase, cheers and thank you!
>> —-
>> 
>> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 3:36 PM Sasha Golden <sashagol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I can assure you that these are factory-farmed. You want to support an 
>> industry that barely allows chickens to move before they die so you can save 
>> a couple of bucks? Go ahead.
>> 
>>  
>> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 1:01 PM AWH <awhule...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> For some cost comparisons, here are some prices for organic boneless  
>> chicken breasts:
>> Whole Foods 365 -
>> Tray $7.99
>> Value pack $6.99
>> Lincoln Donelans Bell and Evans -
>> Tray $12.99
>>  
>> What are the actual prices for Codman chicken?
>> 
>> On Jul 14, 2021, at 9:24 AM, Joan Kimball <selene...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, but Whole Foods can price lower because of quantity. You can see it in 
>> food and flower prices.  They are a national chain.  Codman and local 
>> farmers have  locally grown food.  Farm staff  need to be paid fairly for 
>> this labor intensive food. And so we can choose, as Sara says.
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021, 9:16 AM Anne Warner <warneran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Stepping back from the commentary for a moment:  my sister was up visiting 
>> me in Lincoln recently, and I took her by Codman Farms.  She looked at the 
>> pricing, and was actually pretty shocked.  The prices were so much higher 
>> than even the most expensive of the local markets (Whole Foods) for 
>> identical foods, including organic items.  Her comment was "I guess I 
>> shouldn't be surprised. This is Lincoln, after all."  Really gave me 
>> pause....
>> 
>> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 9:10 AM Margaret Olson <s...@margaretolson.com> 
>> wrote:
>> Out of curiosity, I looked at images of chicken for sale at butcher shops in 
>> the early 40s (pre-factory farmed chicken). Then I compared 1940 prices to 
>> current prices...and discovered that Codman Farm chicken is almost exactly 
>> the same price as chicken was in the 1940s. 
>>  
>> Chicken was once Sunday dinner food. It was, like Codman's chicken, 
>> flavorful and delicious. I looked and looked for pasture raised chicken and 
>> used to buy it from Whole Foods when they occasionally had it. I am SOOO 
>> happy that Codman has real chicken almost all the time. I strongly urge you 
>> all to try it, and just stop buying factory chicken. If you want a bland 
>> protein on which to impart other flavors use tofu. It is expensive - a 
>> problem we solved by eating much less meat. Better for our health, better 
>> for the environment, and the chickens lead a natural chicken life. If you 
>> care at all about the treatment of animals that alone is a reason to avoid 
>> anything except pasture raised chicken.
>>  
>> "Organic" chicken is factory chicken that has been fed organic feed. One of 
>> the Michael Pollan books (apologies, I forget which one) described an 
>> "organic" chicken farm. It wasn't pretty - basically treating the building  
>> like a clean room.
>> 
>> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 8:44 AM Lincoln Historical Society 
>> <lincolnmahistoricalsoci...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Given all Adam has described, yes indeed!
>> 
>> You have many choices - meat and chicken produced at large, factory farms, 
>> will of course be cheaper.
>> Any meat/chicken sold through chain stores will be cheaper.
>> You have that choice -it is locally available at Donelans, Market Basket, 
>> Costco.
>> It is your choice.
>> 
>> You get what you pay for.
>> 
>> Sara
>> 
>> > On Jul 13, 2021, at 8:58 AM, garrick niemiec <gniem...@illinoisalumni.org> 
>> > wrote:
>> > 
>> > Adam
>> > 
>> > What about the frozen chicken and beef...reasonable?
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