My comments was based on how I would have architected SAF - I have no idea how SAF was actually architected but the results indicate to me that there was no extensive functionality/usability design effort for SAF architecture.
-------------------------------------------------------------------- Lionel B. Dyck, Systems Software Lead Kaiser Permanente Information Technology 25 N. Via Monte Ave Walnut Creek, Ca 94598 Phone: (925) 926-5332 (tie line 8/473-5332) E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sametime: (use Lotus Notes address) AIM: lbdyck Romney White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: Linux on 390 Port <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 05/13/2002 05:27 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port To [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc bcc Subject Re: SAF in zVM V4R2 Express Installation Lionel: I think it's easy to say that SAF could eliminate its control of the directory but also trivial to construct a counterexample situation that would deliver you to the base VM tools rather rudely, with no way of going back. If you're right, an existence proof would be (a) easy and (b) incontrovertible proof. Romney On Mon, 13 May 2002 15:03:25 -0700 Lionel Dyck said: >Let me add that it wouldn't take much, imho, for IBM to make SAF >semi-usable. If they would remove the lock down on the user direct so >that one could add other vm guests (e.g. cms, perf monitor, ...) then it >would be nearly ok. > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >Lionel B. Dyck, Systems Software Lead >Kaiser Permanente Information Technology >25 N. Via Monte Ave >Walnut Creek, Ca 94598 > >Phone: (925) 926-5332 (tie line 8/473-5332) >E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sametime: (use Lotus Notes address) >AIM: lbdyck > >Linux on 390 Port <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 05/13/2002 02:34:34 >PM: > >> Hank, >> >> You really don't want to try to manage your Linux/390 guests with SAF. >It >> wasn't meant for that, and IBM won't enhance it beyond its current >> functionality. It was intended solely for the purpose of migrating from >VIF >> to z/VM, and has caused Lionel Dyck an untold amount of grief whenever >he >> tries to push it beyond that. It's your choice, of course, but you can >burn >> a lot of time trying to get it to do what you need and it's not meant to >> provide. >> >> Mark Post >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Hank Calzaretta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 5:03 PM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: SAF in zVM V4R2 Express Installation >> >> >> Hello, >> >> I've just installed zVM V4R2 using the "Express Installation Method". I >> would like to use the "System Administration Facility" (SAF) to manage >Linux >> instances. I sign on as MAINT and issue the command "VMADMCTL START" >and I >> get "Unknow CP/CMS Command". Is anyone aware of any special "LINKs" I >have >> to do to locate the VMADMCTL or VMADMIN commands? >> >> Thanks in advance, >> Hank Calzaretta
