Linux-Advocacy Digest #6, Volume #26 Fri, 7 Apr 00 11:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1] (Mork)
Re: benchmark for speed in linux / windows (Gary Hallock)
Re: The Failure of Microsoft Propaganda -was- So where are the MS (Lee Sau Dan)
Re: The Failure of Microsoft Propaganda -was- So where are the MS (Lee Sau Dan)
Re: The Failure of Microsoft Propaganda -was- So where are the MS (Lee Sau Dan)
Re: The Failure of Microsoft Propaganda -was- So where are the MS (Lee Sau Dan)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mork)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1]
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 14:29:44 GMT
On Sun, 26 Mar 2000 18:54:14 GMT, "Michael W. Coulson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>That's not entirely correct. Nothing NEVER crashes. :) I had Linux
>crash on me once - but that's with 2 years + constant running. That's a
>good track record don't you think. :) Personally - everything I want to
>run has a Linux version. My main machine has not booted another OS in
>over 2 years. My other machine runs Windows(all versions) Beos,
>Freebsd, solaris,etc - only 'cause I like to tinker. :)
Wish I could go 2 years, let alone 2 days. I'm writing this in
windows (forte free agent) because I got tired of rebooting linux
every time a process hung, which refused being killed in any way.
The differences in peoples mileages is amazing.
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Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 10:37:00 -0400
From: Gary Hallock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: benchmark for speed in linux / windows
The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
>
>
> You've gotta be kidding me.
>
> This is *geeky*??
>
> This is *simple*. Slightly flawed, but simple nonetheless.
>
> My version would be
>
> find / > /var/spool/biglist
> alias locate=grepinbig
>
> (grepinbig)
> grep -i "$input" /var/spool/biglist
>
> and my version is still slightly flawed, in that it can't handle
> an argument beginning with a dash (grep looks at one funny). I'm
> not sure if I'd want to use
>
> grep -i "\\$input" /var/spool/biglist
>
Just use:
grep -i -- "$input" /var/spool/biglist
Gary
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.destroy.microsoft
From: Lee Sau Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Failure of Microsoft Propaganda -was- So where are the MS
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 02:04:11 -0400
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>>>>> "fmc" =3D=3D fmc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> But you do limit my right to do with my property as I see fit.
>> You make it illegal to put a certain sequence of ones and zeros
>> on hard disks and CD's that are my property.
fmc> That's right, it's illegal for you to lay down a string of
fmc> copyrighted bits. =20
That's an absurd idea.
So, I'll today write a small program --- a bit-string generator. I'll
deploy this program on all machines which I own, to increase yield.
In 1 year, my program should be able to exhaust all bit strings of
length <=3D 1Mbytes. So, at that time, I'll start sending out =
letters
to all computer (or any digital device) users, telling them to send me
loyalty fee for every file of size <=3D 1Mbytes on their =
storage
devices. Why? I've produced all bit strings of length <=3D =
1Mbytes,
for which I own the copyright. So, anyone who has any file <=3D =
1Mbytes
on their harddisk are "pirates" of some of the bit strings that my
program has generated. Hahahahahahahahaha.........................
For better protection, I'll try to have this idea patented. So, you
can't enjoy the "independent creation" defense. Haha...
fmc> MicroSoft holds the copyright on "0", and
fmc> I believe that Intel and AMD are fighting over who owns the
fmc> "1".
I'll go to another dimension: try to get the ownership of letter "a"
in English alphabet. Whoever uses this letter will have to pay me
loyalty. Haha!
fmc> I'm reading the side of a box that contains a copy of OS/2.
fmc> It states that the box contains copyrighted material, and
fmc> that "purchase is conditioned on acceptance of the license
fmc> contained inside". =20
That's hardly any license or contract. Without the possibility that I
*negotiate* with the other side about the terms in the "license", it
doesn't constitute an agreement or contract. The terms in it are
simply void.
fmc> If you don't agree to the license it says
fmc> you can return the software and get your money back.
.............^^^
I "can" or I "must"?
fmc> If you don't like bowling on their alley, just turn in your
fmc> shoes and get a refund. You won't lose a dime,=20
I wouldn't lose a dime, but dollars! How much is the postage? How
valuable is my time and energy!? You mean those cost < a dime? I'm
not cheap labour!
fmc> you aren't
fmc> damaged in any way, and life goes on. You can run it, read
fmc> it, watch it, or listen to it, but you can't copy it.
Can I keep a **backup** copy of it, then, even if the license *says*
that I do not have the right to do so?
--=20
Lee Sau Dan =A7=F5=A6u=B4=B0(Big5) =
~{@nJX6X~}(HZ)=20
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.destroy.microsoft
From: Lee Sau Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Failure of Microsoft Propaganda -was- So where are the MS
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 02:04:11 -0400
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>>>>> "fmc" =3D=3D fmc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> But you do limit my right to do with my property as I see fit.
>> You make it illegal to put a certain sequence of ones and zeros
>> on hard disks and CD's that are my property.
fmc> That's right, it's illegal for you to lay down a string of
fmc> copyrighted bits. =20
That's an absurd idea.
So, I'll today write a small program --- a bit-string generator. I'll
deploy this program on all machines which I own, to increase yield.
In 1 year, my program should be able to exhaust all bit strings of
length <=3D 1Mbytes. So, at that time, I'll start sending out =
letters
to all computer (or any digital device) users, telling them to send me
loyalty fee for every file of size <=3D 1Mbytes on their =
storage
devices. Why? I've produced all bit strings of length <=3D =
1Mbytes,
for which I own the copyright. So, anyone who has any file <=3D =
1Mbytes
on their harddisk are "pirates" of some of the bit strings that my
program has generated. Hahahahahahahahaha.........................
For better protection, I'll try to have this idea patented. So, you
can't enjoy the "independent creation" defense. Haha...
fmc> MicroSoft holds the copyright on "0", and
fmc> I believe that Intel and AMD are fighting over who owns the
fmc> "1".
I'll go to another dimension: try to get the ownership of letter "a"
in English alphabet. Whoever uses this letter will have to pay me
loyalty. Haha!
fmc> I'm reading the side of a box that contains a copy of OS/2.
fmc> It states that the box contains copyrighted material, and
fmc> that "purchase is conditioned on acceptance of the license
fmc> contained inside". =20
That's hardly any license or contract. Without the possibility that I
*negotiate* with the other side about the terms in the "license", it
doesn't constitute an agreement or contract. The terms in it are
simply void.
fmc> If you don't agree to the license it says
fmc> you can return the software and get your money back.
.............^^^
I "can" or I "must"?
fmc> If you don't like bowling on their alley, just turn in your
fmc> shoes and get a refund. You won't lose a dime,=20
I wouldn't lose a dime, but dollars! How much is the postage? How
valuable is my time and energy!? You mean those cost < a dime? I'm
not cheap labour!
fmc> you aren't
fmc> damaged in any way, and life goes on. You can run it, read
fmc> it, watch it, or listen to it, but you can't copy it.
Can I keep a **backup** copy of it, then, even if the license *says*
that I do not have the right to do so?
--=20
Lee Sau Dan =A7=F5=A6u=B4=B0(Big5) =
~{@nJX6X~}(HZ)=20
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>>>>> "fmc" =3D=3D fmc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> But you do limit my right to do with my property as I see fit.
>> You make it illegal to put a certain sequence of ones and zeros
>> on hard disks and CD's that are my property.
fmc> That's right, it's illegal for you to lay down a string of
fmc> copyrighted bits. =20
That's an absurd idea.
So, I'll today write a small program --- a bit-string generator. I'll
deploy this program on all machines which I own, to increase yield.
In 1 year, my program should be able to exhaust all bit strings of
length <=3D 1Mbytes. So, at that time, I'll start sending out =
letters
to all computer (or any digital device) users, telling them to send me
loyalty fee for every file of size <=3D 1Mbytes on their =
storage
devices. Why? I've produced all bit strings of length <=3D =
1Mbytes,
for which I own the copyright. So, anyone who has any file <=3D =
1Mbytes
on their harddisk are "pirates" of some of the bit strings that my
program has generated. Hahahahahahahahaha.........................
For better protection, I'll try to have this idea patented. So, you
can't enjoy the "independent creation" defense. Haha...
fmc> MicroSoft holds the copyright on "0", and
fmc> I believe that Intel and AMD are fighting over who owns the
fmc> "1".
I'll go to another dimension: try to get the ownership of letter "a"
in English alphabet. Whoever uses this letter will have to pay me
loyalty. Haha!
fmc> I'm reading the side of a box that contains a copy of OS/2.
fmc> It states that the box contains copyrighted material, and
fmc> that "purchase is conditioned on acceptance of the license
fmc> contained inside". =20
That's hardly any license or contract. Without the possibility that I
*negotiate* with the other side about the terms in the "license", it
doesn't constitute an agreement or contract. The terms in it are
simply void.
fmc> If you don't agree to the license it says
fmc> you can return the software and get your money back.
.............^^^
I "can" or I "must"?
fmc> If you don't like bowling on their alley, just turn in your
fmc> shoes and get a refund. You won't lose a dime,=20
I wouldn't lose a dime, but dollars! How much is the postage? How
valuable is my time and energy!? You mean those cost < a dime? I'm
not cheap labour!
fmc> you aren't
fmc> damaged in any way, and life goes on. You can run it, read
fmc> it, watch it, or listen to it, but you can't copy it.
Can I keep a **backup** copy of it, then, even if the license *says*
that I do not have the right to do so?
--=20
Lee Sau Dan =A7=F5=A6u=B4=B0(Big5) =
~{@nJX6X~}(HZ)=20
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>>>>> "fmc" =3D=3D fmc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> But you do limit my right to do with my property as I see fit.
>> You make it illegal to put a certain sequence of ones and zeros
>> on hard disks and CD's that are my property.
fmc> That's right, it's illegal for you to lay down a string of
fmc> copyrighted bits. =20
That's an absurd idea.
So, I'll today write a small program --- a bit-string generator. I'll
deploy this program on all machines which I own, to increase yield.
In 1 year, my program should be able to exhaust all bit strings of
length <=3D 1Mbytes. So, at that time, I'll start sending out =
letters
to all computer (or any digital device) users, telling them to send me
loyalty fee for every file of size <=3D 1Mbytes on their =
storage
devices. Why? I've produced all bit strings of length <=3D =
1Mbytes,
for which I own the copyright. So, anyone who has any file <=3D =
1Mbytes
on their harddisk are "pirates" of some of the bit strings that my
program has generated. Hahahahahahahahaha.........................
For better protection, I'll try to have this idea patented. So, you
can't enjoy the "independent creation" defense. Haha...
fmc> MicroSoft holds the copyright on "0", and
fmc> I believe that Intel and AMD are fighting over who owns the
fmc> "1".
I'll go to another dimension: try to get the ownership of letter "a"
in English alphabet. Whoever uses this letter will have to pay me
loyalty. Haha!
fmc> I'm reading the side of a box that contains a copy of OS/2.
fmc> It states that the box contains copyrighted material, and
fmc> that "purchase is conditioned on acceptance of the license
fmc> contained inside". =20
That's hardly any license or contract. Without the possibility that I
*negotiate* with the other side about the terms in the "license", it
doesn't constitute an agreement or contract. The terms in it are
simply void.
fmc> If you don't agree to the license it says
fmc> you can return the software and get your money back.
.............^^^
I "can" or I "must"?
fmc> If you don't like bowling on their alley, just turn in your
fmc> shoes and get a refund. You won't lose a dime,=20
I wouldn't lose a dime, but dollars! How much is the postage? How
valuable is my time and energy!? You mean those cost < a dime? I'm
not cheap labour!
fmc> you aren't
fmc> damaged in any way, and life goes on. You can run it, read
fmc> it, watch it, or listen to it, but you can't copy it.
Can I keep a **backup** copy of it, then, even if the license *says*
that I do not have the right to do so?
--=20
Lee Sau Dan =A7=F5=A6u=B4=B0(Big5) =
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