Linux-Advocacy Digest #861, Volume #29 Wed, 25 Oct 00 21:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Debian vs RedHat/Mandrake (Charlie Ebert)
Re: An entire morning wasted on a Linux install. (R.E.Ballard ( Rex Ballard ))
Re: Debian vs RedHat/Mandrake (Charlie Ebert)
Re: IBM to BUY MICROSOFT!!!! ("Chad Myers")
Re: Debian vs RedHat/Mandrake (Charlie Ebert)
Re: Debian vs RedHat/Mandrake (Charlie Ebert)
Re: Debian vs RedHat/Mandrake (Charlie Ebert)
Re: Linux Beats NT! (Charlie Ebert)
Re: An entire morning wasted on a Linux install. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Astroturfing ("Christopher Smith")
Re: Debian vs RedHat/Mandrake (.)
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From: Charlie Ebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Debian vs RedHat/Mandrake
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 00:27:45 GMT
Les Mikesell wrote:
> "Charlie Ebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
>
> > Ha ha, shit!
> > Give Bill Gates another 10 years and Windows will probably
> > be another NIX if he had it his way!
> >
> > Charlie
>
> You mean you think his pre-NT marketing claim of 'better unix
> than unix' might someday come true? Want to buy a bridge?
>
> Les Mikesell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
He keeps heading that way.
In 10 years time he will probably have the 64 bit equivalent of Linux
1.8.
Charlie
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From: R.E.Ballard ( Rex Ballard ) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: An entire morning wasted on a Linux install.
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 00:19:12 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Many thanks to Jim for the script/command line version of these
commands.
Just for the record, there are several GUI tools for configuring
the network as well. These include netconfig(Red Hat), linuxconf
(everybody), DrakConf (Mandrake), and YAST (SuSE). In addition,
once you get your ethernet card set up, you can use a web browser
to configure Linux as well.
Try them all, you'll probably find one that you like particularly
well. (I like linuxconf because I know it's on all distributions).
[snip]
> >
> > Question #2 How could I have installed to the Laptop via FTP from
the
> > CDROM mounted on the network CDROM? With a bare harddrive how would
I
> > go about doing this. Is there some cookbook (I am network
challenged)
> > procedure somewhere?
> >
> > I'd like to get this thing back to him tonight so he can play with
> > Linux a bit.
> >
> > Claire
>
> Not being one to hold a grudge.
> First you need to be able to see if your netcard is functional
>
> /sbin/ifconfig
>
> use no options and it will tell you which interfaces you have
> setup and operational.
> If your net card is not setup You would need to do that first.
> If it is setup do this...
>
> /sbin/ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.10 broadcast 192.168.0.255 netmask
255.255.255.0
> If you mess up the numbers type
> /sbin/ifconfig down eth0
> then retry it again with the corrected numbers.
> replace all net numbers with those you requier.
> Next you need to set your gateway. Yes the same as in windows.
> Except in linux you use the route command. In SuSe this
> should also be doable from YAST either 1 or 2. If you need
> to do this manualy ....
>
> /sbin/route add default gw 192.168.0.1 netmask 0.0.0.0 metric 1
>
> replace the network address after the gw with your required address.
> Or if your friends network requeres dhcp this should also be able to
> be set up in YAST.
> Follow those simple instructions and your friend will be up and going
> and without a reboot. If you need more help type man COMMAND
> where COMMAND is the program you need help on.
>
> --
> Jim Broughton
> (The Amiga OS! Now there was an OS)
> If Sense were common everyone would have it!
> Following Air and Water the third most abundant
> thing on the planet is Human Stupidity.
>
--
Rex Ballard - I/T Architect, MIS Director
Linux Advocate, Internet Pioneer
http://www.open4success.com
Linux - 60 million satisfied users worldwide
and growing at over 9%/month! (recalibrated 10/23/00)
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Charlie Ebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Debian vs RedHat/Mandrake
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 00:32:33 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Stop wasting my time liar....
>
> You have been exposed as a BULLSHIT ARTIST
>
> claire
>
Humm.
>
> On 24 Oct 2000 20:07:42 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) wrote:
>
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:22:16 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The
> >> Ghost In The Machine) wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>
> >>>I wouldn't mind variou various benchmark information on this as well.
> >>>The FreeBSD community isn't as visible as the Linux one, but it's clear
> >>>that, if there's an advantage to FreeBSD, it should be touted.
> >>>
> >>>And this looks like an advantage. :-)
> >
> >> I was simply asking him to prove his statement, I don't know if it is
> >> true or not.
> >
> >You wouldnt understand the proof even if it did exist. Ive explained the
> >quality of its existance in two other posts. Read them.
> >
> >
> >>>
> >>>You could be nicer about it, you know. :-)
> >
> >> He chose to BS ( in another thread) and unfortunately he got caught
> >> tossing around terms he knows nothing about.
> >
> >Actually, you tossed them around first and then some guy came to
> >your rescue and started writing your posts for you so that you didnt
> >look like a TOTAL retard, but merely a moronic fool.
>
> I didn't, toss them around. I know exactly what they are and had a
> civil discussion with Gary about it.
>
> You jumped in spewing BULLSHIT and got caught.
>
Well...
>
> Believe me I don't need anybody to post for me.
>
Okay...
>
> >> I don't try to argue programming, or network servers, because "hello.c
> >> was as far as I got.
> >
> >And since a soundblaster is as far as youve gotten with hardware, perhaps
> >you should leave its discussion to qualified people.
>
> You have a real difficult time reading post's don't you.
>
Well, no, ah.
>
> TWO digital audio cards...
>
ah hugh...
>
> Read it again, or at least get somebody to read it to you.
>
Okay I did.
>
> >> yttrx lies, lies and lies again. He gets caught all the time.
> >
> >Name some.
>
> The entire VM/RAS/PSSP thread....
>
> Boy do you look like an asshole on that one.....
>
> Go back to your scripts, kiddie.
>
> claire
>
Well, I'm sorry Claire.
>
> >Go on, claire. Put em up.
> >
> >Heres some things that are apparantly true:
> >
> >1. you have no linux experience
>
> Sure do..
> >2. you have no bsd experience
>
> True. But I never said I did..I don't need to BULLSHIT like YOU DO.
> >3. you have no UNIX experience
>
> AIX.
> >4. you are a moron
>
> I don't make statements I can't back up. You do though.
> >5. people type for you so that you appear to be more intelligent than a devilled
>egg.
>
> At 2:00 in the morning?
> I must have a lot of friends.
>
> I've heard some convoluted attempts at reasoning in COLA, but having
> somebody type for someone else has to be a first.
>
> Is that what you do?
> >6. your opinions are useless
>
> Maybe. But they are backed up with facts and yours are not.
>
> LIAR.
>
> claire
>
> >
> >
> >
> >-----.
Would you two just like to crawl off some a hotel nearby and
just fuck each other silly for about 2 hours and then
come back here.
What is this anyway!
You guy's have got me rolling here.
Charlie
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: IBM to BUY MICROSOFT!!!!
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 00:19:19 GMT
"2:1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Now, fixing that is not a bit deal...I add a line to lilo.conf that says:
> > >
> > > append = "mem=163264k"
> >
> > Note: If you get this wrong, KERNEL PANIC...
>
>
> No shit Sherlock!
>
> Guess what? If I put random crap in the registry, then BLUE SCREEN.
>
> Guess this makes windows real shitty...
No, because you wouldn't have cause to go in and edit the registry
for basic OS functionality, which Linux lacks.
In Linux, I am forced to edit my lilo.conf which teeters on the
brink of OS failure because the OS is too dumb to detect the
basic geometry of the system.
-Chad
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From: Charlie Ebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Debian vs RedHat/Mandrake
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 00:35:24 GMT
Tim Hanson wrote:
> Charlie Ebert wrote:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:22:16 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The
> > > Ghost In The Machine) wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >I wouldn't mind variou various benchmark information on this as well.
> > > >The FreeBSD community isn't as visible as the Linux one, but it's clear
> > > >that, if there's an advantage to FreeBSD, it should be touted.
> > > >
> > > >And this looks like an advantage. :-)
> > >
> > > I was simply asking him to prove his statement, I don't know if it is
> > > true or not.
> > >
> >
> > FreeBSD is the FASTEST OPERATING SYSTEM in the WORLD.
> > It just runs away from Linux 2.2 kernels.
> >
> > It still walks away from a linux 2.4 kernel but not fast enough for
> > me to give up all my driver support for the hardware.
> >
> > FreeBSD is limited on hardware support where Linux practically
> > supports everything Windows does today. There is little left
> > Linux doesn't support.
> >
> > FreeBSD just has that hangup BSD license which would theoretically
> > allow BSDI to close the source and that's why I don't trust it.
> >
> > Linux uses GNU/GPL and you can trust that license.
> >
> > It's just that simple.
> >
>
> That's pretty much it, bottom line, isn't it?. Sometimes I wish *BSD
> was as popular or more so, but it isn't. Whatever the reason, whether
> it is the past strings to AT&T, past court problems, or the license,
> Linux has the momentum right now, and it's snowballing.
>
I don't think I would have much argument for the performance of FreeBSD.
FreeBSD could wip Linux's ass in a heartbeat. Linux could support more
hardware than FreeBSD however and has a better license.
But FreeBSD is a bolt of lightning and it's only it's license which
holds it back. That's it.
>
> > Now if somebody would just explain to me WHY Yahoo is dumping
> > FreeBSD in favor of Linux then I would know everything....
> >
> > Why the Google contract?
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >You could be nicer about it, you know. :-)
> > >
> > > He chose to BS ( in another thread) and unfortunately he got caught
> > > tossing around terms he knows nothing about.
> > >
> > > I don't try to argue programming, or network servers, because "hello.c
> > > was as far as I got.
> > > Even Ebert at least post's proof, albeit sometimes a little stretched,
> > > of his comments.
> > >
> > > yttrx lies, lies and lies again. He gets caught all the time.
> > >
> > > claire
> > >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>claire
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>On 23 Oct 2000 19:19:46 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) wrote:
> > > >
> > > >[snip]
> > > >
> > > >>>http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/x18762.html
> > > >
> > > >This is not a benchmark, but it does look interesting.
> > > >
> > > >[snip]
>
> --
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> in your name and social security number. Please remember that leaving
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> Name #
How did Claire get on this one!
I thought I was talking to a dude on here!
Tim Hanson I thought!
Would you people just stay in your own threads please!
Charlie
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From: Charlie Ebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Debian vs RedHat/Mandrake
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 00:36:02 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Oct 2000 01:15:21 GMT, Charlie Ebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >FreeBSD is the FASTEST OPERATING SYSTEM in the WORLD.
> >It just runs away from Linux 2.2 kernels.
> >
> >It still walks away from a linux 2.4 kernel but not fast enough for
> >me to give up all my driver support for the hardware.
>
> That's fine with me but where are some facts to back this up? I
> believe the original poster said FBSD runs Linux applications faster
> than Linux?
>
> Where is some proof of this?
>
> claire
I'll admit that. It's true.
We don't need a magazine link for that one.
Charlie
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From: Charlie Ebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Debian vs RedHat/Mandrake
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 00:39:06 GMT
Roberto Alsina wrote:
> El mar, 24 oct 2000, Charlie Ebert escribió:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:22:16 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The
> >> Ghost In The Machine) wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >I wouldn't mind variou various benchmark information on this as well.
> >> >The FreeBSD community isn't as visible as the Linux one, but it's clear
> >> >that, if there's an advantage to FreeBSD, it should be touted.
> >> >
> >> >And this looks like an advantage. :-)
> >>
> >> I was simply asking him to prove his statement, I don't know if it is
> >> true or not.
> >>
> >
> >FreeBSD is the FASTEST OPERATING SYSTEM in the WORLD.
> >It just runs away from Linux 2.2 kernels.
> >
> >It still walks away from a linux 2.4 kernel but not fast enough for
> >me to give up all my driver support for the hardware.
> >
> >FreeBSD is limited on hardware support where Linux practically
> >supports everything Windows does today. There is little left
> >Linux doesn't support.
> >
> >FreeBSD just has that hangup BSD license which would theoretically
> >allow BSDI to close the source and that's why I don't trust it.
>
> You know, BSDi can not do such a thing at all. BSDi can stop publishing their
> own version of BSD (which is not FreeBSD anyway), but they can't stop you or me
> from publishing our own.
>
> The danger of source-closing is greatly exaggerated, usually by the FSF for
> political purposes, I believe.
>
> --
> Roberto Alsina
Well, I take their commentary with a grain of salt anyway.
But when Apple builds Mac OSX on top of FreeBSD and the
copyright's it, there's PROOF right there. Don't know what
else we really need here. They took a free BSD project and
via it's license turned into proprietary code.
But they still don't have the POWER nor the TRUST of the
GNU and their GPL license.
IBM will NEVER dump code their way. HP will NEVER dump code
their way.
Linux is developed by about 200,000 people.
FreeBSD's scope is much smaller. I'd guess under 500 people
actually work on it.
Charlie
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From: Charlie Ebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux Beats NT!
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 00:40:52 GMT
John Hughes wrote:
> "Charlie Ebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> <snip>
> >
> > I have to agree.
> >
> > Microsoft Web servers account for less than 10% of the worlds web servers.
> > Apache is 6 times their size in useage.
> >
> > We are also not accounting for EASE of HACKNESS here.
> >
> >
>
> Netcraft showed that it was around 36%.
>
> Where do you get < 10% from?
The IDC reported that Microsoft WEB servers accounted for
like 7% of the world market.
Charlie
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: An entire morning wasted on a Linux install.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 00:50:13 GMT
On Thu, 26 Oct 2000 00:10:06 GMT, R.E.Ballard ( Rex Ballard )
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>Claire_lynn has many times come down against linux and in favor of
>Microsoft. This being said, I'll play with her like she's not
>a troll.
>
>> > IBM Thinkpad 765L with 3 gig blank un partitioned hard disk.
>
>I've installed on a 760, 600, 600E, and several other thinkpads.
>The 765 is supposed to support Linux.
It does and did.
>> > Sigma Data 24x CDROM (says IBM certified on label) in Ultrabay.
>
>Again, this should work normally.
Not if you want to boot from CD and not using a boot disk either. SuSE
worked from Boot disk. RH and Mandrake did not.
>> > USR PCMCIA 56K modem.
>
>This could be risky. Let's assume for the moment that this is
>not a winmodem and actually has a UART interface.
Worked fine.
>> > Linksys Cardbus PCMCIA Ethernet card.
>
>This used to be a problem. The thinkpad didn't support cardbus
>very well. You should get a regular PCMCIA card. I've had this
>problem myself, and it messed up both Linux and Windows NT.
Worked fine.
>> > 64 Meg memory.
>
>Should be enough for a nice workstation.
128 might speed thing up a little.
>> > And one friend who asked me to install Linux, no particular
>> > distribution in mind. Just something "nice" so he can try Linux.
>
>Let's put in a fetw qualifiers.
>
>> Bullshit.....
>
>Let's be polite. We don't want to impress the lurkers with our
>bad manners :-).
>
>> >
>> > I try Mandrake 7.x as my first choice
>> > and slap the CD in only to
>> > discover this particular machine
>> > will not boot from the CD no matter
>> > what I do in the BIOS.
>
>And you're sure that the CD-ROM was good. Specifically, could you
>boot a Windows NT or Windows 95 installation CD. You can set the
>boot order from the BIOS interface. Hold down F2 while booting
>to get to the bio dialogues.
No. The CDROM won't boot any CD, not just Linux ones.
>
>> > Ok so I follow the somewhat screwed up
>> > directions and make a boot diskette. Still the CDROM doesn't get
>> > recognized despite trying every *.img file on the CD.
>
>This is a warning! It sounds like you may have had bad media. Did
>you get this CD from CheapBytes or LinuxMall?
CheapBytes sampler pack.
CD's are good because I have installed them in other machines.
>Did you call the help-desk? LinuxCare provides installation support
>for the first 30 days. You might need to install CDrom.
No. I called you guys :)
>> > Ok so now I
>> > figure maybe Mandrake is screwy so I try RedHat 6.2 and get similar
>> > results.
>
>This is very wierd. It sounds like you were either using bad media
>or the media was burned on a cheap burner that turned the drive into
>a coaster. Also, the CD-ROM may not have been created as a bootable
>CD-ROM (I've frequently had this problem with LinuxMall $2 CDs)
For some reason the Boot disks would not recognize the CDROM. SuSE's
versions (6.4) worked fine.
>Without knowing the source and nature of the media, it's a bit hard
>to guess what the problem might be..
It's up and running now.
claire
>> > At this point I start to think maybe the CDROM drive is
>> > defective so I make a startup diskette on one of my Windows 98se
>> > machines, which has obviously completely different hardware, and try
>> > it. Bingo it recognizes the CDROM and also the fact that the hardisk
>> > is not partitioned.
>
>> > Going one step farther, I partition the drive and
>> > put the Windows 98 SE CDROM in and start an install. Works like a
>> > champ. This is with a startup diskette from a completely different
>> > system with completely different hardware, and yet it seems to
>> > install
>> > some generic Oak Cdrom driver to make it work until Windows can
>> > install the proper driver.
>
>This is pretty normal for a "virgin" install to a new hard drive
>from a "generic" Windows 98 CD.
>
>> > Not to be daunted, I wipe the drive and try SuSE 6.4 via the boot
>> > diskette method and FINALLY the CD is recognized and I am able to
>> > install Linux. All hardware except sound is working fine.
>
>Very good. By the way, the sound card is a bit strange. It's a
>crystalware driver with MPU-401 values set to 0. Unfortunately,
>you may have to set these unusual defaults by hand in the
>modules file. Loki will find the driver chip, but it will try to set
>default values into MPU-401.
>
>> > I took the "Install almost Everything" option and it took about 2.5
>> > hours to complete with 1.7 gig of drive space used. Granted this is
>> > not the fastest of machines (although the CD is 24x) at P166mhz.
>
>SuSE has one of the largest installations of any distribution. The
>commercial version includes over 6 gig.
>
>> > Now comes the fun part. Getting this beast to talk to the other
>> > machines on the network. I've tried it on my network and I can ping
>> > the ICS machine (running Win 2k) but when I bring up Netscape on the
>> > Linux machine it won't connect.
>
>Can you netscape access a raw IP address? If you're using DHCP, make
>sure that you're getting a valid DNS host. If not, you will either
>need to enter a DNS host or (for internal hosts) enter hosts. You
>can use linuxconf and choose the network option or you can edit the
>/etc/resolv.conf and /etc/hosts files by hand.
>
>> > What magic incantation do I need to
>> > know in order to do this. On the other Win machines it just worked
>> > from the start when I checked the "Share the Connection" tab.
>
>You need to designate the ICS machine as your "default router", again
>linuxconf or YAST have nice dialogues to set this up.
>
>
>> > Question #2 How could I have installed to the Laptop
>> > via FTP from the CDROM mounted on the network CDROM?
>
>You need to create two floppies. The first is a core boot,
>the second sets up the FTP connection. Your server must have
>an FTP server running and supporting anonymous FTP. The NT Resource
>kit includes such a beast.
>
>> > With a bare harddrive how would I go about doing this.
>
>You can create the floppies on a Windows machine. If you purchase
>a commercial distribution from a retailer, you will get the floppies
>preconfigured. When you kick-start, there will be two prompts. The
>first asks, "Do you need PCMCIA", to which you answer yes. It installs
>the appropriate PCMCIA module and then installs the card.
>It then asks if you want to do a network installation. If you answer
>yes, it asks you for the IP address, FTP user ID, and password to be
>used to access the machine. From that point on, if it can successfully
>probe the card, the installation is nearly identical to the local CD
>install. If you copy the CD image to the server hard drive, things
>move very quickly. Unfortunately, with that 166 Mhz CPU, it will
>take longer to decompress and validate the package files. Still,
>the installation should go quite smoothly. Many people put all of
>the distribution files on one drive so that they can "fire and forget".
>
>> > Is there some cookbook (I am network challenged)
>> > procedure somewhere?
>
>I've done FTP installations as well as CD-ROM installations. Both
>are quite simple if you have the right core hardware.
>
>Again, getting a commercial supported package either direct from the
>distributor or from a retailer is a very very very very good idea.
>Most of these questions could have been resolved within a few minutes
>on a short telephone call.
>
>> > I'd like to get this thing back to him tonight
>> > so he can play with Linux a bit.
>
>Given that you had a time restriction, it would have been better if
>you had paid the $70 for a commercial version of Mandrake 7.1 or
>SuSE 6.4 (5?).
>
>The help desks deal with these types of questions all the time. Even
>if it isn't a deliberate glitch, once the CD is mastered and shipped,
>there are dozens of "quick tips" for each distribution/computer
>combination.
>
>Personally, I cheat :-). I install Windows to find out what's wierd
>about the hardware, then I install Linux using the settings discovered
>by Windows. This is because I rarely install the same version of
>Linux on the same machine more than once or twice.
>
>I hope this helps a little.
>
>> > Claire
>>
>> --
>> Aaron R. Kulkis
>> Unix Systems Engineer
>> ICQ # 3056642
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From: "Christopher Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Astroturfing
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:45:41 +1000
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:39f77726$2$yrgbherq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Christopher Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
>
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:39f55081$1$yrgbherq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> >>
> >> >Well, you caught me. I'm paid $10 billion dollars a day to be here.
Are
> >you
> >> >happy now? Go away idiot.
> >>
> >> You're the idiot if you think that all of us are stupid enough to think
> >your
> >> constant cheerlead ing for M$ is done for some altruistic reason. --
You
> >are
> >> either paid for it, or are suffering from some mental deficiency that
> >compels
> >> you to have vicarious relationship with bill gates and support him for
> >free.
> >> Which is it jackass?
>
> >You have a real weird idea of what "cheerleading" is. Go and read some
Derek
> >Currie posts - that's "cheerleading".
>
> Expecting you -- who is an M$ user-lover, to understand the statement --
is
> sort of like expecting the CIA to understand why people want to know about
> their failures.
My impression of the average OS/2 advocate remains unchanged....
*plonk*
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Subject: Re: Debian vs RedHat/Mandrake
Date: 26 Oct 2000 01:06:07 GMT
Charlie Ebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Oct 2000 01:15:21 GMT, Charlie Ebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >FreeBSD is the FASTEST OPERATING SYSTEM in the WORLD.
>> >It just runs away from Linux 2.2 kernels.
>> >
>> >It still walks away from a linux 2.4 kernel but not fast enough for
>> >me to give up all my driver support for the hardware.
>>
>> That's fine with me but where are some facts to back this up? I
>> believe the original poster said FBSD runs Linux applications faster
>> than Linux?
>>
>> Where is some proof of this?
>>
>> claire
> I'll admit that. It's true.
> We don't need a magazine link for that one.
Indeed. Its one of those "experience" things.
Also, that awful netscape bus error bug which exists in the linux
version appears to completely disappear when run under linux binary
emulation under freebsd...:)
Proof of this?
It doesnt ever crash.
=====.
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