Linux-Advocacy Digest #861, Volume #33           Tue, 24 Apr 01 04:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Intel versus Sparc ("Tom Wilson")
  Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Blame it all on Microsoft (Jan Vorbrueggen)
  Re: Windows 2000 Rocks! (Nils Zonneveld)
  Re: Windows 2000 Rocks! (Nils Zonneveld)
  Feminism ==> subjugation of males ("jet")
  Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males ("Aaron R. Kulkis")

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.society.liberalism,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 03:04:02 -0400

theRadical wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 17:28:55 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >theRadical wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:50:03 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >theRadical wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:31:15 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >theRadical wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:06:25 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> >> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >the Democratic Party is a bunch of Marxists, who, knowing that using
> >> >> >> >the name Communists would be bad PR, engage in a campaign of deception
> >> >> >> >to get the populace of the country to vote for their own enslavement.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >ANYBODY who seeks to enslave others sacrifices any claim to his own life.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Hope that helps.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> which means soooo [sic] much coming from a fucking idiot twat such as
> >> >> >> yourself.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Gonna come say that to my face?
> >> >>
> >> >> i'm still waiting for you to show up to repossess my vehicle and
> >> >> explain your ridiculous theory that a ship captain is nothing more
> >> >> that a paper pusher.
> >> >>
> >> >> when you show up, i will say that and much more, twat.
> >> >
> >> >Mounted bayonets at 20 paces.
> >> >
> >> >How about it, big boy.
> >>
> >> all you need is a few good bitch slaps.  show up bitch.
> >
> >Prepare to be eviscerated.
> 
> show up.

Sure thing.

> 
> >
> >I live in Detroit.
> 
> bfd.

Are you familiar with an area known as the Cass Corridor?


A few years ago, a guy I knew blew his head off with a shotgun
in a parked car down here.  It was a full week before anybody
bothered to report the body to police...and that was only because
the flies were becoming a nuisance.



> 
> >
> >come to Detroit, where the weak are killed and eaten.
> 
> another geeky white guy drops a name and thinks that makes him tough.

I live here. You don't.
Hope that helps.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 03:07:48 -0400

Roberto Alsina wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 13:18:00 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Roberto Alsina wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:50:57 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >Roberto Alsina wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Sadly, we have been, as a society, convinced by the men with
> >> >> >> >> guns that they have a right to kill.
> >>                                         ^^^^
> >>                                          |
> >> Aaron, follow the arrow------------------+
> >>
> >> >> >> >My house has over half a dozen guns, and ammunition for each,
> >> >> >> >and I haven't been convinced that I have any "right to kill"
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Why do you have lethal weapons?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Because defending yourself is a human right.
> >> >>
> >> >> So, you say you have a right to kill, if you are defending yourself.
> >> >
> >> >I have a right to defend myself.  If it takes lethal force to do
> >> >it, then so be it.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> And you have a gun.
> >> >>
> >> >> Now, why did you say "I haven't been convinced that I have any
> >> >> "right to kill""?
> >> >
> >> >Ok, let's clarify here.
> >> >
> >> >Having a right to kill in self defence is NOT the same as
> >> >claiming a right to murder....which is what your original
> >> >statement implied.
> >>
> >> Read above. I meant what I said.
> >>
> >> >> >> If the answer is "to defend myself", who would you be defending
> >> >> >> yourself against?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Violent, law-breaking criminals.
> >> >>
> >> >> For example, if someone was robbing your TV. The guy is there, going
> >> >> off the window, with your TV in his hands. Would you shoot him?
> >> >
> >> >Absolutely.
> >>
> >> In what way was he a violent criminal? Both hands are holding your TV.
> >
> >Any person who enters my property, uninvited, to steal valuable items
> >from my, is automatically a DANGEROUS individual.
> 
> The guy is holding your TV in both hands. He probably has his legs straddling
                                               ^^^^^^^^

Maybe, maybe not.

Maybe he has a gun in the hand that you can't see.



> the window. In what way is he a danger?

The gun in the hand you can't see.


>                                          Where has he been violent?

He has violated the sanctity of my home.



> 
> >  Burglars will use
> >lethal force to prevent being captured.  Therefore, by merely decided
> >to become burglars, they have automatically placed them into the category
> >of violent criminal until proven otherwise.
> 
> Well, you are free to imagine all you want, but they have not.

You obviously don't understand criminals.

> If you shoot a burglar, that's unarmed, and who was not a danger
> for you, you deserve to go to jail for murder.
> 
> >> So, you didn't mean "violent, law breaking criminals", you actually
> >> meant just "criminals". Why did you lie?
> >
> >All criminals are law breakers, you idiot.
> 
> Yes, that's why I removed the redundancy from your "law breaking criminals"
> bit. I removed the "violent" because of the admission above that violence
> is not necessary for you to kill him.
> 
> Therefore, I rest my case: you called yourself idiot.
> 
> >> >Theft is slavery.  And the proper punishment for slavery is death.
> >>
> >> So, you say the proper punishment for robbery is death, by summary
> >> execution, without a judge or a jury?
> >
> >Did I say that, or are you attempting to put words in my mouth?
> 
> Well, you say that if you see a man stealing your TV you will kill him.
> Did I miss the part where you call a judge, assemble a jury, and THEN
> you kill him?
> 
> You DID say that, Aaron.
> 
> --
> Roberto Alsina


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Intel versus Sparc
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 07:08:12 GMT


"Kelsey Bjarnason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9q%E6.1338$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [snips]
>
> "Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > Figured it couldn't be compiler bugs!  After some
> > more dicking around with cleaning up some of
> > the myriad of warnings, I noticed that the
> > bad function was pushing an array of structures
> > onto the stack.  Looking at the size of the array,
> > found it was 64 Mb!
> >
> > At that point, we realized that the Intel platform
> > was the cause of the trouble
>
> Really?  The Intel platform, eh?  Not, say, the programmer who created
this
> monstrosity in the first place without a shred of consideration for the
> possible impact of doing it, no, not his fault, must be the platform.

That was my thinking, too. Why on God's green earth would the programmer not
anticipate such a thing and simply pass a pointer to the array?





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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.society.liberalism,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 03:10:20 -0400

theRadical wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 17:27:59 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >theRadical wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 16:26:20 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >theRadical wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:49:32 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >theRadical wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:31:15 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> >> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >theRadical wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:06:25 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> >> >> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >the Democratic Party is a bunch of Marxists, who, knowing that using
> >> >> >> >> >the name Communists would be bad PR, engage in a campaign of deception
> >> >> >> >> >to get the populace of the country to vote for their own enslavement.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >ANYBODY who seeks to enslave others sacrifices any claim to his own 
>life.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >Hope that helps.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> which means soooo [sic] much coming from a fucking idiot twat such as
> >> >> >> >> yourself.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Gonna come say that to my face?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> i'm still waiting for you to show up to repossess my vehicle and
> >> >> >> explain your ridiculous theory that a ship captain is nothing more
> >> >> >> that a paper pusher.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Spot the strawman arguments.
> >> >>
> >> >> strawman?  you threatened to confiscate my car as part of you duties
> >> >> as a law enforcement officer.
> >> >
> >> >Wrong on two counts.
> >> >
> >> >I said, by your logic, I should, as a government agent, be able
> >> >to confiscate your car
> >>
> >> wrong, you said you WERE a government agent
> >
> >Yes, I am.
> 
> well then, show up and confiscate my vehicle asshole.

That wouldn't be fun...you'd be expecting me.

Nah, it's much more fun to snatch it when you least expect it,
and have made absolutely no provisions for alternative methods.

You know...those alternative methods that you insist EVERYBODY ELSE
should be using.


> 
> >
> >> and that you WERE going to
> >> confiscate my vehicle because you WANTED to.
> >
> >When I feel like it, I will.  Because you have not proved
> >sufficient NEED for it.
> 
> please show up.  you are so full of shit.  just like the ship captain
> thing.


Checked your toilet lately?


> 
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> >
> >> >>  to confiscate my car, you must show up.
> >> >
> >> >Did I give you an exact date?
> >> >
> >> >a) yes
> >> >B) NO
> >>
> >> C)  so fucking what?
> >>
> >> at least you admit that you were going to show up, flip flopper.
> >>
> >> you are nothing more than an arrogant hateful asshole liar.
> >
> >
> >Yes, I admit, I am arrogant and hateful when I lie to assholes.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> >
> >> >hope that helps
> >>
> >> the kulkis strategy:
> >>
> >> attack, dodge, attack, accuse, dodge.
> >
> >close
> >
> >Audi, Dodge, Audi, Accura, Dodge.
> 
> that goes in the dodge category.

No wonder you're a little Neo-stalinist.

no fucking sense of humor.

> 
> >
> >
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> when you show up, we will converse.  what makes that a strawman
> >> >> argument?
> >> >>
> >> >> you are the liar with the ridiculous arguments.  your accusation of
> >> >> strawman arguments is a joke.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >So says the scarecrow maker.
> >>
> >> so says the lying asshole who can't back up anything he says.
> >>
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> when you show up, i will say that and much more, twat.
> >
> >
> >That's not a very female accepting thing to say.
> 
> i guess you would know pussy.

He did it again.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: Jan Vorbrueggen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.theory,comp.arch,comp.object
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Microsoft
Date: 24 Apr 2001 09:21:33 +0200

"Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The Germans did, in fact have real, working computers before anyone else.

Well, Zuse certainly did, and although he had some public - i.e., war -
funding initially, I'm pretty sure that was reduced/cut before the end
of the war. He built his biggest machine in the living room of his parents-
in-law.

It is very much the case that Zuse's contribution is almost invisible,
compared to van Neuman and E&M.

        Jan

------------------------------

From: Nils Zonneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 Rocks!
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 09:20:22 +0200



Edward Rosten wrote:

> Which GUI app was that? Most Windows apps don't have regex capability.
> 

There are more GUI's than only Windows. BBedit supports regexp (also
over multiple files, so the Ford -> Chevy replace example, although I
prefer Alfa Romeo, would be quite doable).

Nils

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From: Nils Zonneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 Rocks!
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 09:22:42 +0200



"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:

> Of course, first you would have had to write a LoseDOS app with regex capabilities.

BBEdit on Macintosh, Multi Edit on DOS/Windows, to name a few, all
support regexp.

Nils

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From: "jet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 00:34:59 -0700


MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:ELUE6.1381$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "jet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9c06um$1o3m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:vEFE6.1319$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > > > Any man who supports Feminism is a self-flagellating idiot.
> > > >
> > > > Any man who thinks a woman should be paid the same for equal work is
a
> > > self
> > > > flagellating idiot?
> > >
> > > No, just any man who marries one.
> > >
> >
> > Any man who marries a woman who thinks she should get paid the same as a
> man
> > for the same work is a self flagellating idiot?
> >
> > LOL.
> >
> > J
>
> Pay is not the issue. I've no problem with women getting equal pay.
> The point I was making, my opinion obviously, is that a man is a
> "flagellating idiot" if he were to marry a feminist.
>  Get it now?

A woman who thinks she should get paid the same as a man for the same work
is a feminist. Get it now?

J





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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 03:26:31 -0400

Brent R wrote:
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > Brent R wrote:
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Brent R wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > jet wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > > > MH wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "jet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > news:9c06um$1o3m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > news:vEFE6.1319$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Any man who supports Feminism is a self-flagellating idiot.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Any man who thinks a woman should be paid the same for equal 
>work
> > > > > > > is a
> > > > > > > > > > > self
> > > > > > > > > > > > flagellating idiot?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > No, just any man who marries one.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Any man who marries a woman who thinks she should get paid the 
>same as
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > man
> > > > > > > > > > for the same work is a self flagellating idiot?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > LOL.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > J
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Pay is not the issue. I've no problem with women getting equal pay.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But try to find a woman who TRULY does equal work...like coming in 
>early,
> > > > > > > > or staying late, as needed.  Or going out of town on a business trip
> > > > > > > > on short notice....or transferring half way across the country (or
> > > > > > > > even to an office 20 miles farther from her house).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Quite frankly...there are reasons why the STATISTICAL AVERAGE for
> > > > > > > > women's pay is so much lower than men...they refuse to go to the
> > > > > > > > same lengths that men will to *EARN* it'
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Unlike you, most women have *lives* outside of work, and don't want to 
>spend
> > > > > > > every waking hour chasing the all mighty dollar.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, you admit that women do NOT provide equal work.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > GAME
> > > > > > SET
> > > > > > MATCH
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > J
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I have to agree with Aaron here (did I just say that?)... yeah I don't
> > > >
> > > > Be carefeul, Brent.
> > > >
> > > > If you pay attention, you'll discover that I'm MUCH more in tune
> > > > with what's really going on than what you suspected.
> > > >
> > > > > want to spend 12 hours a day at work. But I'm not going to go around
> > > > > whining if I get passed up for a raise/promotion. If I really want it,
> > > > > I'll do what's necessary... or maybe I'll decide that I'd rather spend
> > > > > my life enjoying the moment.
> > > > >
> > > > > Still, *modern* feminism is about whining and not really accepting
> > > > > responsibility for your actions. In the capitalist system you're worth
> > > > > what you negotiate... and we're at a point in time where women do not
> > > > > face widespread discrimination. There may be exceptions to the rule but
> > > > > by and large that's the truth.
> > > > >
> > > > > The men and women I see for the most part deserve what they are getting.
> > > > > Actually there was a case at my company where a guy was fired because he
> > > > > did what his female supervisor wanted. He did what she told him to do,
> > > > > she was an incompetent (who among other things wanted us to flush the
> > > > > operating system from the mainframe I work on... idiot) and what he did
> > > > > caused damage on the client's computer. She blamed him because he was a
> > > > > Puerta Rican, and she knew she could get away with it.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > - Brent
> > > > >
> > > > > http://rotten168.home.att.net
> > >
> > > I never doubted it for a second and if you cleaned up your act you'd be
> > > a force to be reckoned with.
> > >
> > > Well, if you want to live for the moment (like I do) and not work 12
> > > hours a day than you'll have to live with the fact that other people
> > > will make more than you. I don't make as much as a dude I work with
> > > does, I am still a full-time student. Actually he makes about 5$ an hour
> > > more than me. Difference is... he gives a shit. I don't. It's just a
> > > place where I can go and be arrogant and obnoxious and get away with
> > > it... as well as pick up a check. As soon as I graduate I'll be out of
> > > there... while he won't. I don't complain... he makes more than me, but
> > > more is expected out of him.
> > >
> > > *Modern* feminism is in the business of whining and complaining and
> > > making up crisis. Part of the romance of "living for the moment" is that
> > > you have to accept the consequences of it as well. Otherwise it'd be so
> > > easy that it wouldn't take any courage doing it... and everyone would do
> > > it.
> >
> > Modern feminism decries "the patriarchy", and then whines for
> > it to come back and clean up her diapers, because she still hasn't
> > learned to shit in the toilet.
> 
> Jesus man, do you really have to be that crude?
> 
> Be careful Aaron, not all women are like that, I wouldn't even say the

I wasn't referring to "all women" is was referring to that body
known as "feminism"


> majority. There is a tiny minority of shrill man-haters who make the
> rest look bad.

If a woman were getting abused by a man, and the rest of the men
stood around, and did nothing to him....are they not guilty of
letting him proceed with his abuse?

Likewise, any woman who passively sits by, and accepts the ill-gotten
gains produced as a consequence of the paranoid cries of shrill
man-haters is guilty of giving tacit approval.

I can name only a handful of American women who openly oppose
the Dworkinites....not surprisingly, somewhere around 50% of
them are foreign-born and raised.

Cathy Young
Arianna Huffington
Michelle Malkin




> 
> Have you ever seen numbers on how many contemporary women give a shit
> about feminism?

Any woman who is accepting the ill-gotten gains of sexist, anti-male
laws is just guilty as those who fought to get these laws enacted
in the first place.


>                 The overwhelming majority couldn't care less about
> Steinhem, because the ones that have the talent and heart to go get what
> they want and the rest are just whiners who somehow end up in academia
> or on the news.

They don't care because they aren't the ones being suffered by
laws which penalize ONLY men.

These laws were voted on by male-dominated legislatures.

This is the proof that, when it comes right down to it, American 
men are much more considerate to American women than vice versa.


American men listend to women's complaints, and take them to heart.
American women listen to men's complaints, and return scorn.


> 
> Don't make blanket statements about all women. Don't make that mistake.

I didn't, your mistake was interpreting my use of "feminism" as a
reference for all women.

The vast majority of the world's women think feminism is a crock of
shit.   Only in America do most women unilaterally agree with the
basic tenets of male-abusing feminism

(such as "my husband's paycheck is ours, but my paycheck is mine";
equal pay for less-than-equal work; the sex which SPENDS 70% of the
money, most of which is earned by the other sex, is somehow "oppressed"

Think about that....millions of women, who go around spending money
THAT MEN EARNED, will tell you that *they*, not the men, are the
ones who are oppressed.

Oh...and the men who are EARNING the money....get rewarded with
dying on the job, rather than at home in bed with their family.







> 
> > > --
> > > - Brent
> > >
> > > http://rotten168.home.att.net
> >
> > --
> 
> --
> - Brent
> 
> http://rotten168.home.att.net


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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