Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, Mar 04, 2003: > You remind me what I knew about using Windows before I arrived to my > current workplace. Outlook is not just a mail client but a (convenient! > IMHO) address book + calendar + notes + mail organizer. You can say they > don't belong together but the fact is that the integration is VERY > convenient.
Seen it. Not so convenient, and *really* doesn't belong together. Nor do I see the point of having a mailer inside your browser. > I think you are mixing Outlook Express with Outlook. Maybe. > > Why are people so obsessed with spreadsheets? What do you use > > them for? > > Anyway - just because you don't have or want > to use an application doesn't mean it's illegitimate for others to use > it. There are many applications, and some of them even have legitimate uses, but I don't see why spreadsheets are so special to almost everyone out there. A sound player that can play three Microsoft WAV (or better, Ogg Vorbis) files simultaneously, at different levels and speeds, including backwards, is more useful to me. > > Sure. And the usability of Windows programs is higher than that > > of most competing Linux software. But your claims that the only > > thing OSS people can do WRT GUI is rip MS's interface make me > > want to come over and rip KDE/Gnome from under your feet, so you > > see real UNIX inside, however ugly it may be. > > I think many people who despise MS (me among them) admit that they are > kings when it comes to GUI design and usability for non-technical users. No. UNIX *is* ugly, but Windows is also quite far from perfection (although XP seems to be better on most fronts than earlier versions of Windows). > Just because some program looks like MS doesn't mean it's bad ..or good. > - many > times it's an interface which matured through a long time of user > feedback and enhancements and besides it might help immigrants from MS > world to feel more comfortable. My point was that the claim that UNIX GUI designers can only rip UI off MS is false. However, I don't claim that UNIX GUI doesn't suck, or is otherwise reasonable, let alone perfect. Vadik. -- ( Forth ) base dup @ swap hex dup @ 2 swap over + * over ! 22a s51u1t sw3alw vr20io vqo5mc ux1z4w wb72ve wb72v7 :noname 2dup - swap dup - do begin dup while 74 /mod swap emit repeat drop loop ! ; execute ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
