> -----Original Message----- > From: Tzahi Fadida [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> there are numerous others that can do the same. the only > difference of skype > to others is that > if you are in some office or some isp that don't provide a > real ip(which is > not really done anymore > since no one will pay for this) and also your other friend > have the same > problem then you have a problem > other then that many applications match skype ability to call > another user. Like I mentioned before, Free World Dialup (http://www.fwd.pulver.com) works nicely with (or without) NAT on both sides of the link. It does this by employing some kind of nat traversal equipment which coordinates the two communication sides ports, and in the case of the really bad NATs, even makes the packets go through it and tunnels it to the other side. And the protocol is both OPEN and STANDARD (SIP/RTP) I have it working very nice for me. Saved me a small fortune in international phone calls too! -- Arik (FWD #23501) ================================================================To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]